Cle TRACON controller receiving training described a loss of separation event when the landing runwa...

Attributes
ACN	875388
Time
Date	201002
Local Time Of Day	0001-0600
Place
Locale Reference	CLE.TRACON
State Reference	OH
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Climb
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Climb
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Approach Trainee
Qualification	Air Traffic Control Developmental
Person 2
Function	Approach Instructor
Qualification	Air Traffic Control Fully Certified
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy

Narrative:

Air carrier X was first on final and air carrier Y was 5 miles behind them on the ILS just outside the FAF. Air carrier X was on the tower frequency when the city of cleveland closed the landing runway due to 'poor' breaking. I was in the process of climbing and/or descending all my traffic for holding when the tower coordinated to put air carrier X back on the downwind. I had air carrier Y climb to the lowest free altitude that I had at the time; 5000; and when air carrier X checked in I climbed them to 6000; the next free altitude. Without verifying that air carrier X climbed through 5000 I turned air carrier Y right direct the holding fix and that's when the proximity event took place. My trainer was then able to step in and resolve the conflict. Recommendation; during the event my trainer was busy coordinating with the tower and not listening to what I was doing; while the person that was supposed to open the inner was trying to get me to do something that I didn't understand. There wasn't a lot of traffic that warranted and inner controller since we were holding at all the fixes and only had about 6 planes in the airspace; however we did need a coordinator due the constantly changing conditions and the complexity of the situation.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLE TRACON Controller receiving training described a loss of separation event when the landing runway was closed because of braking issues; the Reporter indicating the Instructor failed to hear an incorrect vector instruction because of coordination involvement/s.

Narrative: Air Carrier X was first on final and Air Carrier Y was 5 miles behind them on the ILS just outside the FAF. Air Carrier X was on the Tower frequency when the City Of Cleveland closed the landing runway due to 'poor' breaking. I was in the process of climbing and/or descending all my traffic for holding when the Tower coordinated to put Air Carrier X back on the downwind. I had Air Carrier Y climb to the lowest free altitude that I had at the time; 5000; and when Air Carrier X checked in I climbed them to 6000; the next free altitude. Without verifying that Air Carrier X climbed through 5000 I turned Air Carrier Y right direct the holding fix and that's when the proximity event took place. My Trainer was then able to step in and resolve the conflict. Recommendation; during the event my Trainer was busy coordinating with the Tower and not listening to what I was doing; while the person that was supposed to open the inner was trying to get me to do something that I didn't understand. There wasn't a lot of traffic that warranted and inner Controller since we were holding at all the fixes and only had about 6 planes in the airspace; however we did need a coordinator due the constantly changing conditions and the complexity of the situation.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Cle TRACON controller receiving training described a loss of separation event when the landing runway was closed because of braking issues; the reporter indicating the instructor failed to hear an incorrect vector instruction because of coordination involvement/s.