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Dvt controller questioned P50's simultaneous IFR releases on a lear followed by a single engine piper.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 879181 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201003 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | DVT.Tower |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 45 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Flight Data / Clearance Delivery |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We called P50 for a release on a lear and an archer. After a hold of a couple of minutes P50 called back and said lear released then archer released. No comment as to maintain visual or released in two minutes just released them both at the same time. In a non-radar environment I assume there is more separation needed than 3000 ft. That's what these two got; lear departed; and then 3000 feet later the archer was released. Recommend better training; right now there are so many people training at so many positions and being certified at such low hours things like this are becoming very common.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DVT controller questioned P50's simultaneous IFR releases on a Lear followed by a single engine Piper.
Narrative: We called P50 for a release on a Lear and an Archer. After a hold of a couple of minutes P50 called back and said Lear released then Archer released. No comment as to maintain visual or released in two minutes just released them both at the same time. In a non-RADAR environment I assume there is more separation needed than 3000 ft. That's what these two got; Lear departed; and then 3000 feet later the Archer was released. Recommend better training; right now there are so many people training at so many positions and being certified at such low hours things like this are becoming very common.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.