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Attributes | |
ACN | 88191 |
Time | |
Date | 198805 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 88191 |
Person 2 | |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Sfo tower continues practice of simultaneous takeoffs on runway 01R and O1L. If any problem develops on either aircraft, a collision could occur. 'At gross weight-high vs (157 KTS),' it is very distracting to do formation takeoffs and flying (we do not receive formation training). The downwind runway aircraft should roll 1 minute before the upwind aircraft begins its takeoff roll. A philosophical question needs to be asked: which is more important--safety or traffic flow at an airport?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT COMPLAINT ABOUT TKOFS ON PARALLEL RWYS AT SFO.
Narrative: SFO TWR CONTINUES PRACTICE OF SIMULTANEOUS TKOFS ON RWY 01R AND O1L. IF ANY PROB DEVELOPS ON EITHER ACFT, A COLLISION COULD OCCUR. 'AT GROSS WT-HIGH VS (157 KTS),' IT IS VERY DISTRACTING TO DO FORMATION TKOFS AND FLYING (WE DO NOT RECEIVE FORMATION TRNING). THE DOWNWIND RWY ACFT SHOULD ROLL 1 MINUTE BEFORE THE UPWIND ACFT BEGINS ITS TKOF ROLL. A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION NEEDS TO BE ASKED: WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT--SAFETY OR TFC FLOW AT AN ARPT?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.