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Attributes | |
ACN | 89609 |
Time | |
Date | 198806 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sgf |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sgf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 89609 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Error |
Narrative:
While on vector heading and at assigned altitude of 7000' sgf approach control instructed as I and my first officer recall, 'descend to 3000',' which we did. At approximately 4 mi west of the field approach advised us of an light transport Y approaching from our 10 or 11 O'clock position descending out of 2800'. As we had visual contact with that aircraft the approach controller told us he had descended us to 6000'. We told him that we had visual contact with the light transport Y and that we had understood our descent instructions to be 3000' and that we had read back 3000'. We turned left to avoid the light transport Y flight path and then proceeded with a visual approach to the airport and landed as cleared west/O further incident. I immediately called the ATC control to discuss the incident. The supervisor said that the tape had not been reviewed and that the controller was busy and couldn't come to the phone, but it was possible that an error had been committed and said that we probably misunderstood our instructions. I told him to review the tape. He said he would as soon as possible. The conversation was polite and cordial. Sgf ATC has always been excellent and I feel that an indirect cause was heavy traffic workload at the time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MDT DESCENDED TO WRONG ALT AND HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION WITH AN LTT DESCENDING TO SAME ALT.
Narrative: WHILE ON VECTOR HDG AND AT ASSIGNED ALT OF 7000' SGF APCH CTL INSTRUCTED AS I AND MY F/O RECALL, 'DSND TO 3000',' WHICH WE DID. AT APPROX 4 MI W OF THE FIELD APCH ADVISED US OF AN LTT Y APCHING FROM OUR 10 OR 11 O'CLOCK POS DSNDING OUT OF 2800'. AS WE HAD VISUAL CONTACT WITH THAT ACFT THE APCH CTLR TOLD US HE HAD DSNDED US TO 6000'. WE TOLD HIM THAT WE HAD VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE LTT Y AND THAT WE HAD UNDERSTOOD OUR DSCNT INSTRUCTIONS TO BE 3000' AND THAT WE HAD READ BACK 3000'. WE TURNED LEFT TO AVOID THE LTT Y FLT PATH AND THEN PROCEEDED WITH A VISUAL APCH TO THE ARPT AND LANDED AS CLRED W/O FURTHER INCIDENT. I IMMEDIATELY CALLED THE ATC CTL TO DISCUSS THE INCIDENT. THE SUPVR SAID THAT THE TAPE HAD NOT BEEN REVIEWED AND THAT THE CTLR WAS BUSY AND COULDN'T COME TO THE PHONE, BUT IT WAS POSSIBLE THAT AN ERROR HAD BEEN COMMITTED AND SAID THAT WE PROBABLY MISUNDERSTOOD OUR INSTRUCTIONS. I TOLD HIM TO REVIEW THE TAPE. HE SAID HE WOULD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE CONVERSATION WAS POLITE AND CORDIAL. SGF ATC HAS ALWAYS BEEN EXCELLENT AND I FEEL THAT AN INDIRECT CAUSE WAS HEAVY TFC WORKLOAD AT THE TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.