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Attributes | |
ACN | 896793 |
Time | |
Date | 201007 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ORD.Airport |
State Reference | IL |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | STAR WYNDE 2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 250 Flight Crew Total 15000 Flight Crew Type 1600 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
After checking in with approach control; we were told to plan for the ILS 22R approach. While still on the wynde 2 arrival inside of fiyer we were given a clearance that read 'cross fnuch at 7;000 cleared ILS 22R maintain 170 KTS to ridge.' while this clearance in and of itself is fine; at no time did approach control ever give us instruction or clearance on how to transition from the arrival to approach phase. This led to some confusion and I then asked if we should maintain our present heading to join the localizer 22R. The controller agreed and recleared us for the approach. I am beginning to see a trend in this type of clearance which lacks some crucial part. Chicago is a very complex environment in which mistakes can be made. The controllers need to be clear and concise and not give 3-4 clearances in one transmission that can lead to confusion or omission on the part of the flight crew.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An A320 flight crew received an approach clearance to ORD while still on the WYNDE 2 RNAV STAR. The clearance provided no method of 'transition' from the arrival to the IAP.
Narrative: After checking in with Approach Control; we were told to plan for the ILS 22R approach. While still on the WYNDE 2 arrival inside of FIYER we were given a clearance that read 'cross FNUCH at 7;000 cleared ILS 22R maintain 170 KTS to RIDGE.' While this clearance in and of itself is fine; at no time did Approach Control ever give us instruction or clearance on how to transition from the arrival to approach phase. This led to some confusion and I then asked if we should maintain our present heading to join the localizer 22R. The Controller agreed and recleared us for the approach. I am beginning to see a trend in this type of clearance which lacks some crucial part. Chicago is a very complex environment in which mistakes can be made. The controllers need to be clear and concise and not give 3-4 clearances in one transmission that can lead to confusion or omission on the part of the flight crew.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.