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Attributes | |
ACN | 898564 |
Time | |
Date | 201007 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | MCO.Airport |
State Reference | FL |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Events | |
Anomaly | Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
Were cleared 'visual approach' to runway 18R mco. Told to cross mco VOR at 2;500 ft. Visually crossed the VOR and by reference to tuffee felt we were past mco VOR. Passing through 2;200 ft; orlando approach said we had started down early. Here we go again. If crossing altitude over (or abeam) mco VOR while on the ILS for 18R gives you a stable approach; then perhaps have a crossing restriction when 'visual' that is 300 ft higher needs to be revisited. It is most difficult to start and maintain a stable approach from where approach control apparently feels the visual crossing point for 2;500 ft would be.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An air carrier crew reported crossing the MCO VOR at 2;200 FT on glide slope instead of the 2;500 specified this crew believes the procedure needs to be revisited.
Narrative: Were cleared 'visual approach' to Runway 18R MCO. Told to cross MCO VOR at 2;500 FT. Visually crossed the VOR and by reference to TUFFEE felt we were past MCO VOR. Passing through 2;200 FT; Orlando Approach said we had started down early. Here we go again. If crossing altitude over (or abeam) MCO VOR while on the ILS for 18R gives you a stable approach; then perhaps have a crossing restriction when 'visual' that is 300 FT higher needs to be revisited. It is most difficult to start and maintain a stable approach from where Approach Control apparently feels the visual crossing point for 2;500 FT would be.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.