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Attributes | |
ACN | 900193 |
Time | |
Date | 201007 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | JFK.Airport |
State Reference | NY |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 90 Flight Crew Total 9700 Flight Crew Type 8500 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 250 Flight Crew Total 21500 Flight Crew Type 10000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met |
Narrative:
VOR 13L at jfk cross asalt at 3;000 and cri at 1;500 mandatory. I; the first officer; asked for 13R visual. Tower said cleared us for the visual to 13R. At that time I noticed we were descending through 1;500 ft approaching cri and crossed it at 1;100. No ATC query at all and landed uneventful on 13R. The crj continues to be an oven up front. The packs are not blowing cold air; and the volume of air is low. We flew 15 hrs day 3 and 4 with 9:55 and 8:55 rest on the ground. Adding the minimum rest plus the heat caused two experienced pilots to make mistakes that normally would not have happened. Neither caused an ATC problem; but our very difficult/uncomfortable work environment is leading us to this area. [We were] too hot and very little rest. The AC system is in dire need of repair. Packs are not blowing air and my captain and I have bought store sunshades to keep the cockpits cool on the ground.fix these airplanes. I flew these jets new and the packs worked; they could freeze a piece of meat. Now it is not working as new and needs to be repaired. I can only drink so much water in the hot cockpit. A comfortable cockpit environment leads to a safe one where decisions can be made in a real way as opposed to missing basic things due to fatigue and heat.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ flight crew reports crossing CRI at 1;100 FT after commencing the VOR approach to Runway 13L at JFK; then being cleared for the visual to Runway 13R. Fatigue and a very hot cockpit are cited as factors in the incident.
Narrative: VOR 13L at JFK cross ASALT at 3;000 and CRI at 1;500 mandatory. I; the First Officer; asked for 13R visual. Tower said cleared us for the visual to 13R. At that time I noticed we were descending through 1;500 FT approaching CRI and crossed it at 1;100. No ATC query at all and landed uneventful on 13R. The CRJ continues to be an oven up front. The packs are not blowing cold air; and the volume of air is low. We flew 15 hrs day 3 and 4 with 9:55 and 8:55 rest on the ground. Adding the minimum rest plus the heat caused two experienced pilots to make mistakes that normally would not have happened. Neither caused an ATC problem; but our very difficult/uncomfortable work environment is leading us to this area. [We were] too hot and very little rest. The AC system is in dire need of repair. Packs are not blowing air and my Captain and I have bought store sunshades to keep the cockpits cool on the ground.Fix these airplanes. I flew these jets new and the packs worked; they could freeze a piece of meat. Now it is not working as new and needs to be repaired. I can only drink so much water in the hot cockpit. A comfortable cockpit environment leads to a safe one where decisions can be made in a real way as opposed to missing basic things due to fatigue and heat.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.