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Attributes | |
ACN | 904761 |
Time | |
Date | 201008 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Airbus Industrie Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 110 Flight Crew Total 10150 Flight Crew Type 1300 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
Weather was IFR in denver. ATIS was reporting 1/4 mile; and tower calling 6;000 RVR. Captain was flying and briefed CAT 3 autoland. We reviewed the procedures together using the briefing guide and NOTAMS as well. ATC told us to slow to 210 KTS which we did. Our altitude was 7;000 ft and we were on a dogleg to intercept final. Tower gave us a heading to intercept; maintain 7;000 ft until on final; cleared for the ILS. At this point; I told the captain that we should slow down since we were approaching final. He did and put 180 KTS in the speed window. At this point; the localizer was alive and he armed the approach. We went through final and the captain decided to click off the autopilot and stated that he was going to hand-fly the aircraft to CAT 1 minimums. He caught me off guard and I was trying to figure out in a timely manner if this was legal. The captain got behind the aircraft. By fom criteria; we were not 100% stable at 1;000 ft; as the speed brakes were still out and we were not fully configured; airspeed was high and checklist not complete. I had asked him if he still wanted to continue and he said yes. I should have been more aggressive and just told him to go around; but did not. He caught up to the aircraft just as we reaching CAT 1 minimums; and saw the approach lights. We landed and taxied to the gate. We discussed what happened; and he also stated that we should have gone around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An Airbus Captain elected to hand fly a low minimum approach but he got behind the aircraft. Attempts by the First Officer to suggest a go around when the approach exceeded stabilized approach criteria were ineffective.
Narrative: Weather was IFR in Denver. ATIS was reporting 1/4 mile; and Tower calling 6;000 RVR. Captain was flying and briefed CAT 3 Autoland. We reviewed the procedures together using the briefing guide and NOTAMS as well. ATC told us to slow to 210 KTS which we did. Our altitude was 7;000 FT and we were on a dogleg to intercept final. Tower gave us a heading to intercept; maintain 7;000 FT until on final; cleared for the ILS. At this point; I told the Captain that we should slow down since we were approaching final. He did and put 180 KTS in the speed window. At this point; the LOC was alive and he armed the approach. We went through final and the Captain decided to click off the autopilot and stated that he was going to hand-fly the aircraft to CAT 1 minimums. He caught me off guard and I was trying to figure out in a timely manner if this was legal. The Captain got behind the aircraft. By FOM criteria; we were not 100% stable at 1;000 FT; as the speed brakes were still out and we were not fully configured; airspeed was high and checklist not complete. I had asked him if he still wanted to continue and he said yes. I should have been more aggressive and just told him to go around; but did not. He caught up to the aircraft just as we reaching CAT 1 minimums; and saw the approach lights. We landed and taxied to the gate. We discussed what happened; and he also stated that we should have gone around.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.