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Attributes | |
ACN | 909028 |
Time | |
Date | 201009 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | CMA.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft High Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Single Piston Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 7.5 Flight Crew Total 1645 Flight Crew Type 1500 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict NMAC |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 50 Vertical 0 |
Narrative:
I was handed off to mugu by socal east of cooga intersection. They told me to cross cooga at 4;000 ft and cleared me for the approach; contact tower at cecee. Then I think they told me to go to tower before cecee; which I did. I was on final approach to cma; talking with the tower; and was cleared to land. I saw the other airplane; I believe a high-wing cessna; in what appeared to be a climbing right turn; about 50 ft ahead. He may have just looked like he was climbing because I was descending; or he may have been in level flight turning base to final. I don't know where he went; but I continued the approach. I spoke with the tower supervisor after landing; he said he would listen to the tape and get back to me; which he did. It seems the pilot of the other airplane had been issued traffic (me) at about 2 miles; but it wasn't until we got really close; that the controller called the traffic for me. I didn't hear it; and neither did my passenger (also an IFR pilot); but to be fair; it's possible that we both could have missed it. Also; after listening to the tape; the tower supervisor said the controller called traffic on my left -- this guy came from the right. I didn't take any corrective action - didn't have time - and I don't know if the other guy did or not. Maybe we just got lucky. I can't speak for anyone else's physical condition; but I had gotten plenty of sleep the night before; I wasn't hungry; we'd had a pleasant hour's flight; I wasn't distracted and I wasn't in a hurry to get anywhere special. Cma is hugely busy on weekends because there's a great restaurant on the field. I don't know how much experience the controllers have; but I would think that the most experienced ones should be working at those times.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A pilot on approach to CMA Runway 26 reported a near miss with an aircraft which ATC claimed they reported but the transmission was not heard or acknowledged by the reporter or his passenger.
Narrative: I was handed off to Mugu by SOCAL east of COOGA Intersection. They told me to cross COOGA at 4;000 FT and cleared me for the approach; contact Tower at CECEE. Then I think they told me to go to Tower before CECEE; which I did. I was on final approach to CMA; talking with the Tower; and was cleared to land. I saw the other airplane; I believe a high-wing Cessna; in what appeared to be a climbing right turn; about 50 FT ahead. He may have just looked like he was climbing because I was descending; or he may have been in level flight turning base to final. I don't know where he went; but I continued the approach. I spoke with the Tower Supervisor after landing; he said he would listen to the tape and get back to me; which he did. It seems the pilot of the other airplane had been issued traffic (me) at about 2 miles; but it wasn't until we got really close; that the Controller called the traffic for me. I didn't hear it; and neither did my passenger (also an IFR pilot); but to be fair; it's possible that we both could have missed it. Also; after listening to the tape; the Tower Supervisor said the Controller called traffic on my left -- this guy came from the right. I didn't take any corrective action - didn't have time - and I don't know if the other guy did or not. Maybe we just got lucky. I can't speak for anyone else's physical condition; but I had gotten plenty of sleep the night before; I wasn't hungry; we'd had a pleasant hour's flight; I wasn't distracted and I wasn't in a hurry to get anywhere special. CMA is hugely busy on weekends because there's a great restaurant on the field. I don't know how much experience the controllers have; but I would think that the most experienced ones should be working at those times.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.