37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 911464 |
Time | |
Date | 201009 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | POC.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Eclipse 500 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | Other KPOC ODP RWY26L |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Electronic Flt Bag (EFB) |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Multiengine |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
When receiving an IFR clearance from poc; I was given a clearance that included; 'runway 26L departure procedure; vectors to join...(rest of route)'.I looked through my electronic charts and procedure database in my garmin 400 and did not see a procedure listed. I; admittedly; did not ask for clarification prior to departure.after handoff from tower and radar contact with departure; I was asked why I was not in a left hand turn in accordance with the departure procedure. I admitted that I was not familiar with the procedure when asked and vectors were given. Although the controller did state that; 'he was not going to violate' me; he continued to question me on the radio and asked 'why' several times.I have two concerns with what occurred this morning. First and foremost; I should have looked at the airport notes and the odp(obstacle departure procedure). Completely; 100% my fault and a very strong lesson learned. My second concern is that; although I appreciate that the controller was trying to help me learn; as a single pilot flying in complex airspace trying to correct a bad situation; I would have preferred to discuss the situation with the controller off-line; after the situation had been corrected. I have definitely learned my lesson after this; and the only take away I would like to provide the national airspace system is; that although tolerance and guidance are hugely appreciated by pilots like me; the added stress of trying to answer 'why' and 'what were you thinking' questions is counter productive to correcting a possibly dangerous situation.again; I greatly appreciate the help and guidance I receive from ATC everyday; but wanted to submit an example of a case where the lesson could have been better absorbed with an after the fact discussion versus 'real-time.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Despite not understanding by which departure procedure he was cleared; the Pilot of an EA500 took off from POC and was confronted by an ATC Controller who clarified the procedure in a manner the reporter felt was unnecessarily brusque.
Narrative: When receiving an IFR clearance from POC; I was given a clearance that included; 'Runway 26L departure procedure; vectors to join...(rest of route)'.I looked through my electronic charts and procedure database in my Garmin 400 and did not see a procedure listed. I; admittedly; did not ask for clarification prior to departure.After handoff from Tower and radar contact with Departure; I was asked why I was not in a left hand turn in accordance with the departure procedure. I admitted that I was not familiar with the procedure when asked and vectors were given. Although the Controller did state that; 'he was not going to violate' me; he continued to question me on the radio and asked 'why' several times.I have two concerns with what occurred this morning. First and foremost; I should have looked at the airport notes and the ODP(Obstacle Departure Procedure). Completely; 100% my fault and a very strong lesson learned. My second concern is that; although I appreciate that the Controller was trying to help me learn; as a single pilot flying in complex airspace trying to correct a bad situation; I would have preferred to discuss the situation with the Controller off-line; after the situation had been corrected. I have definitely learned my lesson after this; and the only take away I would like to provide the national airspace system is; that although tolerance and guidance are hugely appreciated by pilots like me; the added stress of trying to answer 'why' and 'what were you thinking' questions is counter productive to correcting a possibly dangerous situation.Again; I greatly appreciate the help and guidance I receive from ATC everyday; but wanted to submit an example of a case where the lesson could have been better absorbed with an after the fact discussion versus 'real-time.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.