Light transport given pilot's discretion descent, aircraft held altitude too long and was sent back to ARTCC for descent to approach control altitude. ARTCC flight crew behavior aggression.

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Attributes
ACN	93676
Time
Date	198809
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : rzc airport : fyv
State Reference	AR
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 11000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zme tracon : fyv
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	enroute : direct enroute airway : zme
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5900 flight time type : 360
ASRS Report	93676
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Per flight plan we were navigating on V63 between mlc and rzc. When at 40 mi south of rzc, ZME gave us clearance, 'turn 20 degrees right.' we had to ask for back on course. We got, 'turn 15 degrees left.' mins passed and I asked again, 'like to proceed direct drake VOR.' our destination was fyv (it is a non radar airport). Controller got mad and told us we were already cleared direct drake. Not so, we were on radar vectors. We got descent clearance to 8000'. Through 14000' we asked for pilot's discretion to 8000' due to cloud layer. We were cleared then at our discretion to 8000'. We leveled off at 11000' to stay above clouds until close to fyv. Handoff to fyv approach followed. We told approach at 11000' our discretion to 8000'. They gave us holding instructions. Over drake VOR we were told to go back to ZME. ZME got mad again and told us, 'it is not procedure to stay at 11000' so long.' I told him we had our discretion to 8000', point blank. He issued immediate descent to 5000', heading 180 degrees, IFR traffic conflicting. We need radar at fyv.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: LTT GIVEN PLT'S DISCRETION DESCENT, ACFT HELD ALT TOO LONG AND WAS SENT BACK TO ARTCC FOR DESCENT TO APCH CTL ALT. ARTCC FLT CREW BEHAVIOR AGGRESSION.

Narrative: PER FLT PLAN WE WERE NAVIGATING ON V63 BTWN MLC AND RZC. WHEN AT 40 MI S OF RZC, ZME GAVE US CLRNC, 'TURN 20 DEGS RIGHT.' WE HAD TO ASK FOR BACK ON COURSE. WE GOT, 'TURN 15 DEGS LEFT.' MINS PASSED AND I ASKED AGAIN, 'LIKE TO PROCEED DIRECT DRAKE VOR.' OUR DEST WAS FYV (IT IS A NON RADAR ARPT). CTLR GOT MAD AND TOLD US WE WERE ALREADY CLRED DIRECT DRAKE. NOT SO, WE WERE ON RADAR VECTORS. WE GOT DSCNT CLRNC TO 8000'. THROUGH 14000' WE ASKED FOR PLT'S DISCRETION TO 8000' DUE TO CLOUD LAYER. WE WERE CLRED THEN AT OUR DISCRETION TO 8000'. WE LEVELED OFF AT 11000' TO STAY ABOVE CLOUDS UNTIL CLOSE TO FYV. HDOF TO FYV APCH FOLLOWED. WE TOLD APCH AT 11000' OUR DISCRETION TO 8000'. THEY GAVE US HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS. OVER DRAKE VOR WE WERE TOLD TO GO BACK TO ZME. ZME GOT MAD AGAIN AND TOLD US, 'IT IS NOT PROC TO STAY AT 11000' SO LONG.' I TOLD HIM WE HAD OUR DISCRETION TO 8000', POINT BLANK. HE ISSUED IMMEDIATE DSCNT TO 5000', HDG 180 DEGS, IFR TFC CONFLICTING. WE NEED RADAR AT FYV.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.