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Attributes | |
ACN | 94021 |
Time | |
Date | 198809 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : diw |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : ar7 enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 16560 flight time type : 8640 |
ASRS Report | 94021 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were navigating AR7 south. Center asked if we were correcting back to the airway. The tail of the ADF needle was swinging back and forth +/- 5 degree more or less on the airway radial. We told center we showed on the airway. The controller said, 'no sir, you're not even close; turn left heading 175 degree, intercept AR1 for the blufi arrival fll.' we were then able to use our vors to intercept the airway as we got close to florida. Single ADF navigation should be banned, especially for airway/route navigation. The technology to eliminate this hazard to flight is plentiful and inexpensive.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT DEVIATED FROM CLRNC ROUTE HEADING SOUTH ON AR7.
Narrative: WE WERE NAVIGATING AR7 S. CENTER ASKED IF WE WERE CORRECTING BACK TO THE AIRWAY. THE TAIL OF THE ADF NEEDLE WAS SWINGING BACK AND FORTH +/- 5 DEG MORE OR LESS ON THE AIRWAY RADIAL. WE TOLD CENTER WE SHOWED ON THE AIRWAY. THE CTLR SAID, 'NO SIR, YOU'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE; TURN L HDG 175 DEG, INTERCEPT AR1 FOR THE BLUFI ARR FLL.' WE WERE THEN ABLE TO USE OUR VORS TO INTERCEPT THE AIRWAY AS WE GOT CLOSE TO FLORIDA. SINGLE ADF NAV SHOULD BE BANNED, ESPECIALLY FOR AIRWAY/ROUTE NAV. THE TECHNOLOGY TO ELIMINATE THIS HAZARD TO FLT IS PLENTIFUL AND INEXPENSIVE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.