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Attributes | |
ACN | 94268 |
Time | |
Date | 198809 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 94268 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was on taxiway J waiting to cross runway 33. Large transport Y was taking off on runway 36 while medium large transport Z was landing on runway 33. As large transport Y broke ground, medium large transport Z landed on runway 33. It was extremely too close and dangerous. I talked with dca tower supervisor and manager. Both stated it was a legal operation. My comment was it might be legal, but it certainly was not safe. If all factors hadn't gone perfectly, a disaster certainly could have happened. This needs to be looked into and quickly before someone makes a slight misjudgment creating an accident. Some of the factors dca tower doesn't take into account: weight and acceleration of takeoff aircraft or landing speed of aircraft, or landing aircraft decides to go around and by habit starts towards river where takeoff aircraft is, or abort of takeoff, or instructions from tower 'stepped on' (blocked) while issuing last minute go around/or abort instructions. I feel legality fine, common sense though dictates better judgement. This needs to occur in the thinking chain of the dca tower!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CAPT OBSERVED AN ATC OPERATION HE CONSIDERED TO BE UNSAFE.
Narrative: I WAS ON TXWY J WAITING TO CROSS RWY 33. LGT Y WAS TAKING OFF ON RWY 36 WHILE MLG Z WAS LNDG ON RWY 33. AS LGT Y BROKE GND, MLG Z LANDED ON RWY 33. IT WAS EXTREMELY TOO CLOSE AND DANGEROUS. I TALKED WITH DCA TWR SUPVR AND MGR. BOTH STATED IT WAS A LEGAL OPERATION. MY COMMENT WAS IT MIGHT BE LEGAL, BUT IT CERTAINLY WAS NOT SAFE. IF ALL FACTORS HADN'T GONE PERFECTLY, A DISASTER CERTAINLY COULD HAVE HAPPENED. THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO AND QUICKLY BEFORE SOMEONE MAKES A SLIGHT MISJUDGMENT CREATING AN ACCIDENT. SOME OF THE FACTORS DCA TWR DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT: WT AND ACCELERATION OF TKOF ACFT OR LNDG SPD OF ACFT, OR LNDG ACFT DECIDES TO GO AROUND AND BY HABIT STARTS TOWARDS RIVER WHERE TKOF ACFT IS, OR ABORT OF TKOF, OR INSTRUCTIONS FROM TWR 'STEPPED ON' (BLOCKED) WHILE ISSUING LAST MINUTE GO AROUND/OR ABORT INSTRUCTIONS. I FEEL LEGALITY FINE, COMMON SENSE THOUGH DICTATES BETTER JUDGEMENT. THIS NEEDS TO OCCUR IN THE THINKING CHAIN OF THE DCA TWR!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.