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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 946024 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201104 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ALB.Airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Final Approach |
| Route In Use | Visual Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 45 |
| Flight Phase | Takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Flight Data / Clearance Delivery |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Local |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Developmental |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
I had just taken the controller in charge and clearance delivery/flight data position. There was a conversation just after I took the position with the relieved controller. As we were talking the local controller asked; 'hey guys is this gonna work' just after he had cleared an aircraft for takeoff. The local controller had already taken a point out on a CRJ2 to cross through the local controller's departure corridor. By the time the question was asked it was too late to stop the departing aircraft. The relieved controller suggested a 190 heading for the aircraft departing runway 28. That caused a further problem because that was the heading of the aircraft on the downwind for runway 1. Visual separation was maintained the whole time. Recommendation: make sure all controllers have a complete understanding of point outs and how they work.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALB Controllers described a conflict involving a departing LR45 and an inbound Air Carrier; the conflict linked to the late departure roll by the LR45; the reporter listing distractions and point out procedure knowledge as contributing factors.
Narrative: I had just taken the Controller in Charge and Clearance Delivery/Flight Data position. There was a conversation just after I took the position with the relieved Controller. As we were talking the Local Controller asked; 'Hey guys is this gonna work' just after he had cleared an aircraft for takeoff. The Local Controller had already taken a point out on a CRJ2 to cross through the Local Controller's departure corridor. By the time the question was asked it was too late to stop the departing aircraft. The relieved Controller suggested a 190 heading for the aircraft departing Runway 28. That caused a further problem because that was the heading of the aircraft on the downwind for Runway 1. Visual separation was maintained the whole time. Recommendation: make sure all controllers have a complete understanding of point outs and how they work.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.