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Attributes | |
ACN | 955219 |
Time | |
Date | 201106 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZHU.ARTCC |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | Direct Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Overshoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
During climb out with we were given radar vectors initially. There were numerous thunderstorm cells and buildups in the area. ATC cleared us direct gcv and up to 14;000 ft. As the captain (pm) was reading the clearance back it was apparent that the clearance would take us right in the middle of a cell with heavy precipitation depicted on the radar 5 NM ahead. I motioned to the captain that we would need right deviations to avoid the cell and he added the request to the end of his readback. Houston center did not acknowledge and started an exchange with a different aircraft. With no time to wait we decided to turn right 5 to 10 degrees to avoid the cell. Shortly thereafter ATC got back to us and the captain renewed the request for deviations. ATC told us to standby and we checked TCAS for a reason the request would not be immediately approved. The captain called out a TCAS target that was 12 o'clock; about 5 NM ahead; above us and closing. I started a turn back towards gcv and increased climb rate to clear the storm cell and get through the other aircraft's altitude before the distance closed. Shortly thereafter ATC advised us of the VFR traffic and amended our assigned altitude to 11;000 ft. We where climbing through 11;000 ft. At that time and at a high rate of climb. I disconnected the autopilot and stopped the climb rate as quickly as possible; reaching 11;400 ft before returning to 11;000 ft. At this point the other aircraft was about 2.5 to 3 NM at our 2 o'clock and about 400-500 ft above our altitude. With numerous buildups in the area we where unable to visually acquire the VFR traffic. Once we passed the traffic ATC cleared us to deviate and cleared us to a higher altitude. We did not receive a TCAS TA or RA; and ATC made no mention of any deviations.weather; ATC communication issues; and VFR traffic skirting an area of IMC were the most obvious threats. The lateral deviation from our clearance was unavoidable given the weather ahead. If ATC had acknowledged the deviation request during our initial exchange there would have been more time to derive a solution. It may have been better to say we were unable to accept the clearance; but that wasn't immediately apparent until the course preview on the FMS appeared during mid-read back. I suspect ATC didn't hear or someone stepped on the deviation request made after the clearance read back. In hindsight I probably should have slowed the climb and accepted the rough ride. Instead our airspeed dropped to 220 KTS; we quickly closed on the target's altitude; and I overshot an amended altitude clearance (although this was so late there was no chance to level off in time).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ-200 flight crew reports needing a weather deviation during climb; but is unable to obtain clearance prior to deviating on their own. This puts the crew in conflict with VFR traffic above and ATC amends the clearance to 11;000 FT; which is overshot initially.
Narrative: During climb out with we were given radar vectors initially. There were numerous thunderstorm cells and buildups in the area. ATC cleared us direct GCV and up to 14;000 FT. As the Captain (PM) was reading the clearance back it was apparent that the clearance would take us right in the middle of a cell with heavy precipitation depicted on the radar 5 NM ahead. I motioned to the Captain that we would need right deviations to avoid the cell and he added the request to the end of his readback. Houston Center did not acknowledge and started an exchange with a different aircraft. With no time to wait we decided to turn right 5 to 10 degrees to avoid the cell. Shortly thereafter ATC got back to us and the Captain renewed the request for deviations. ATC told us to standby and we checked TCAS for a reason the request would not be immediately approved. The Captain called out a TCAS target that was 12 o'clock; about 5 NM ahead; above us and closing. I started a turn back towards GCV and increased climb rate to clear the storm cell and get through the other aircraft's altitude before the distance closed. Shortly thereafter ATC advised us of the VFR traffic and amended our assigned altitude to 11;000 FT. We where climbing through 11;000 FT. at that time and at a high rate of climb. I disconnected the autopilot and stopped the climb rate as quickly as possible; reaching 11;400 FT before returning to 11;000 FT. At this point the other aircraft was about 2.5 to 3 NM at our 2 o'clock and about 400-500 FT above our altitude. With numerous buildups in the area we where unable to visually acquire the VFR traffic. Once we passed the traffic ATC cleared us to deviate and cleared us to a higher altitude. We did not receive a TCAS TA or RA; and ATC made no mention of any deviations.Weather; ATC communication issues; and VFR traffic skirting an area of IMC were the most obvious threats. The lateral deviation from our clearance was unavoidable given the weather ahead. If ATC had acknowledged the deviation request during our initial exchange there would have been more time to derive a solution. It may have been better to say we were unable to accept the clearance; but that wasn't immediately apparent until the course preview on the FMS appeared during mid-read back. I suspect ATC didn't hear or someone stepped on the deviation request made after the clearance read back. In hindsight I probably should have slowed the climb and accepted the rough ride. Instead our airspeed dropped to 220 KTS; we quickly closed on the target's altitude; and I overshot an amended altitude clearance (although this was so late there was no chance to level off in time).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.