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Attributes | |
ACN | 96200 |
Time | |
Date | 198810 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 96200 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 1500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on downwind we received a clearance including a turn, descent and instructions to look for traffic. We were also given a frequency change but were not cleared for a visual approach. Due to the complexity of the clearance there was a bit of a delay before the frequency change was accomplished. The vector put us on the runway 35R extended centerline by the time the new controller was contacted. The new controller vectored us out of our traffic sequence and resequenced us to runway 36L. Apparently this was due to a traffic conflict, possibly arising out of the delayed frequency change. The problem was the bulk of information given in the clearance at a point so close to the final approach area. Also the clearance did not include clearance for the visual approach. This necessitated following a vector (base leg) that in less than a minute must be changed. This is a set up for a conflict situation if even the slightest communication hitch arises. The problem could be resolved by giving frequency changes while on either downwind or final or after clearance for the visual approach. Don't, however, give the frequency change while on a tight base leg heading assignment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HEADING DEVIATION, LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION, AIRBORNE CONFLICT, DELAYED FREQ CHANGE.
Narrative: WHILE ON DOWNWIND WE RECEIVED A CLRNC INCLUDING A TURN, DSCNT AND INSTRUCTIONS TO LOOK FOR TFC. WE WERE ALSO GIVEN A FREQ CHANGE BUT WERE NOT CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH. DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THE CLRNC THERE WAS A BIT OF A DELAY BEFORE THE FREQ CHANGE WAS ACCOMPLISHED. THE VECTOR PUT US ON THE RWY 35R EXTENDED CENTERLINE BY THE TIME THE NEW CTLR WAS CONTACTED. THE NEW CTLR VECTORED US OUT OF OUR TFC SEQUENCE AND RESEQUENCED US TO RWY 36L. APPARENTLY THIS WAS DUE TO A TFC CONFLICT, POSSIBLY ARISING OUT OF THE DELAYED FREQ CHANGE. THE PROB WAS THE BULK OF INFO GIVEN IN THE CLRNC AT A POINT SO CLOSE TO THE FINAL APCH AREA. ALSO THE CLRNC DID NOT INCLUDE CLRNC FOR THE VISUAL APCH. THIS NECESSITATED FOLLOWING A VECTOR (BASE LEG) THAT IN LESS THAN A MINUTE MUST BE CHANGED. THIS IS A SET UP FOR A CONFLICT SITUATION IF EVEN THE SLIGHTEST COM HITCH ARISES. THE PROB COULD BE RESOLVED BY GIVING FREQ CHANGES WHILE ON EITHER DOWNWIND OR FINAL OR AFTER CLRNC FOR THE VISUAL APCH. DON'T, HOWEVER, GIVE THE FREQ CHANGE WHILE ON A TIGHT BASE LEG HDG ASSIGNMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.