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Attributes | |
ACN | 964323 |
Time | |
Date | 201108 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | D10.TRACON |
State Reference | TX |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach Departure |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
This event was discovered during one of D10's daily tarp audits; 2 hours a day 5 days a week; which no other facility in the country even comes close to. An E145 was following a B757 on the downwind to runway 17C at dfw. I turned the B757 on base and the E145 flew through the 'wake remnant.' the E145 was not directly behind the B757; tarp puts a bubble on the replay when it knows an aircraft has flown through the so called wake remnant. [I] recommend first and foremost give the controllers working the front line the same tools as the FAA is using. We have no way of knowing where the so called 'wake remnant' is and if the FAA is going to use this tool to catch us then it should be made available for us to use it in real life situations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: D10 Controller described a 'wake remnant' separation event discovered a routine TARP audit; the reporter noting the discovery tools use to identify same should be available at the operational positions to determine separation.
Narrative: This event was discovered during one of D10's daily TARP audits; 2 hours a day 5 days a week; which no other facility in the country even comes close to. An E145 was following a B757 on the downwind to Runway 17C at DFW. I turned the B757 on base and the E145 flew through the 'wake remnant.' The E145 was not directly behind the B757; TARP puts a bubble on the replay when it knows an aircraft has flown through the so called wake remnant. [I] recommend first and foremost give the controllers working the front line the same tools as the FAA is using. We have no way of knowing where the so called 'wake remnant' is and if the FAA is going to use this tool to catch us then it should be made available for us to use it in real life situations.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.