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Attributes | |
ACN | 97026 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cys |
State Reference | WY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 20400 msl bound upper : 21000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 97026 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified atc |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was stopped at FL200 for traffic (corp Y was at FL210). Traffic was issued to Y as 7 O'clock, 5 mi, type, FL200. Both aircraft had recently departed from denver approach's airspace. My next scan of the sector I observe air carrier X at FL205 and 4 mi from Y (loss of standard sep). X was instructed to maintain FL200 and say altitude. Mode C indicated FL204, X reported level FL200. When X was clear of Y, he was climbed to FL230 and informed of the pilot deviation. X requested a second readback of the pilot deviation. Readback given, only then did X mention he had been getting bounced around a lot at FL200. Corp Y pilot said he would vouch for air carrier X being in chop. Pilots should inform the controller of chop/rough rides if they are unable to hold altitude, so additional measures for providing sep can be taken.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ALT DEVIATION RESULTS IN LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION WITH CORP ACFT.
Narrative: ACR X WAS STOPPED AT FL200 FOR TFC (CORP Y WAS AT FL210). TFC WAS ISSUED TO Y AS 7 O'CLOCK, 5 MI, TYPE, FL200. BOTH ACFT HAD RECENTLY DEPARTED FROM DENVER APCH'S AIRSPACE. MY NEXT SCAN OF THE SECTOR I OBSERVE ACR X AT FL205 AND 4 MI FROM Y (LOSS OF STANDARD SEP). X WAS INSTRUCTED TO MAINTAIN FL200 AND SAY ALT. MODE C INDICATED FL204, X REPORTED LEVEL FL200. WHEN X WAS CLEAR OF Y, HE WAS CLBED TO FL230 AND INFORMED OF THE PLT DEV. X REQUESTED A SECOND READBACK OF THE PLT DEV. READBACK GIVEN, ONLY THEN DID X MENTION HE HAD BEEN GETTING BOUNCED AROUND A LOT AT FL200. CORP Y PLT SAID HE WOULD VOUCH FOR ACR X BEING IN CHOP. PLTS SHOULD INFORM THE CTLR OF CHOP/ROUGH RIDES IF THEY ARE UNABLE TO HOLD ALT, SO ADDITIONAL MEASURES FOR PROVIDING SEP CAN BE TAKEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.