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Attributes | |
ACN | 97356 |
Time | |
Date | 198810 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ptk |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7600 flight time type : 5400 |
ASRS Report | 97356 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight plan: M65 wynne ark, cng VOR, vhp VOR, D kptk. Approximately 685 NM, 1.7 hours en route, 2.5 hours fuel on board. At approximately 190 NM from ptk, destination, ATC tried to start me down from 37000' to FL290. I proclaimed this would make me fuel critical. I was left at FL370 till approximately 140 NM from ptk. This was ok until ATC changed my routing 3 times. This additional routing, plus lower altitudes, would have eaten into my VFR reserves. I proclaimed again that with this additional routing and lower altitudes that I would be fuel critical. Approach did shorten some of this additional routing and I landed with approximately 35 mins fob. Later I received a call from flight standard per approach's request about the matter. I explained the situation as above. He told me that approach had handled this as a priority. I feel that my flight planning was adequate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR LTT FLT CREW QUESTIONED ABOUT DECLARING FUEL CRITICAL DURING ARR INTO PTK. ACFT LANDED WITH 35 MINUTE FUEL RESERVE.
Narrative: FLT PLAN: M65 WYNNE ARK, CNG VOR, VHP VOR, D KPTK. APPROX 685 NM, 1.7 HRS ENRTE, 2.5 HRS FUEL ON BOARD. AT APPROX 190 NM FROM PTK, DEST, ATC TRIED TO START ME DOWN FROM 37000' TO FL290. I PROCLAIMED THIS WOULD MAKE ME FUEL CRITICAL. I WAS LEFT AT FL370 TILL APPROX 140 NM FROM PTK. THIS WAS OK UNTIL ATC CHANGED MY ROUTING 3 TIMES. THIS ADDITIONAL ROUTING, PLUS LOWER ALTS, WOULD HAVE EATEN INTO MY VFR RESERVES. I PROCLAIMED AGAIN THAT WITH THIS ADDITIONAL ROUTING AND LOWER ALTS THAT I WOULD BE FUEL CRITICAL. APCH DID SHORTEN SOME OF THIS ADDITIONAL ROUTING AND I LANDED WITH APPROX 35 MINS FOB. LATER I RECEIVED A CALL FROM FLT STANDARD PER APCH'S REQUEST ABOUT THE MATTER. I EXPLAINED THE SITUATION AS ABOVE. HE TOLD ME THAT APCH HAD HANDLED THIS AS A PRIORITY. I FEEL THAT MY FLT PLANNING WAS ADEQUATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.