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Attributes | |
ACN | 977065 |
Time | |
Date | 201110 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B747-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 250 Flight Crew Total 25000 Flight Crew Type 5000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Ground crew was following what we understood to be new procedures. After I gave the 'disconnect headset' response; I looked toward my right (terminal side) and saw the marshaller with his arms outstretched at a 45 degree angle. There was no chance that the aircraft was safe to taxi; we did not see the tug pull away from the aircraft. We waited until we saw the tug clear the aircraft and then I flashed the taxi light and received a salute from the marshaller. After take-off the crew was not certain if we had anticipated the wrong commands or the marshaller was at fault. After review we believe the marshaller mistakenly was giving us the safe to taxi signal. Had we not been aware of the tug position we could have damaged the aircraft or caused serious injury to ground personnel. I think the minimal training for the many SOP changes is a factor in this incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B747 Captain reports that new push back procedures are not well understood by the ground crews. A safe to taxi signal is received well before the tug has cleared the nose gear.
Narrative: Ground Crew was following what we understood to be new procedures. After I gave the 'disconnect headset' response; I looked toward my right (terminal side) and saw the marshaller with his arms outstretched at a 45 degree angle. There was no chance that the aircraft was safe to taxi; we did not see the tug pull away from the aircraft. We waited until we saw the tug clear the aircraft and then I flashed the taxi light and received a salute from the marshaller. After take-off the crew was not certain if we had anticipated the wrong commands or the marshaller was at fault. After review we believe the marshaller mistakenly was giving us the safe to taxi signal. Had we not been aware of the tug position we could have damaged the aircraft or caused serious injury to ground personnel. I think the minimal training for the many SOP changes is a factor in this incident.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.