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Attributes | |
ACN | 97924 |
Time | |
Date | 198811 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mad |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1300 msl bound upper : 1300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bdl |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 970 |
ASRS Report | 97924 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on a cross country training flight my student flew off course and was not sure of her position. She then contacted bdl approach and said she was lost and asked for vectors to her destination. The approach controller instructed her to squawk 7700 and then told her of her position and gave her a heading to the destination airport. When ATC found out that a flight instrument was on board they asked me to call the tower. When I did they said they would make a report and submit it to GADO. We never declared an emergency and were never asked by ATC if an emergency situation existed and if ATC was going to treat a lost pilot as an emergency situation, they should at least ask how much fuel is on board, which they never did. This incident would have never happened if the controller did not use 7700 as a squawk code for a position fix and confirmed that the lost pilot was indeed in distress and wanted priority treatment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: STUDENT PLT ON CROSSCOUNTRY WITH CFI ON BOARD GETS LOST AND REQUESTS FLT ASSIST.
Narrative: WHILE ON A XCOUNTRY TRNING FLT MY STUDENT FLEW OFF COURSE AND WAS NOT SURE OF HER POS. SHE THEN CONTACTED BDL APCH AND SAID SHE WAS LOST AND ASKED FOR VECTORS TO HER DEST. THE APCH CTLR INSTRUCTED HER TO SQUAWK 7700 AND THEN TOLD HER OF HER POS AND GAVE HER A HDG TO THE DEST ARPT. WHEN ATC FOUND OUT THAT A FLT INSTR WAS ON BOARD THEY ASKED ME TO CALL THE TWR. WHEN I DID THEY SAID THEY WOULD MAKE A RPT AND SUBMIT IT TO GADO. WE NEVER DECLARED AN EMER AND WERE NEVER ASKED BY ATC IF AN EMER SITUATION EXISTED AND IF ATC WAS GOING TO TREAT A LOST PLT AS AN EMER SITUATION, THEY SHOULD AT LEAST ASK HOW MUCH FUEL IS ON BOARD, WHICH THEY NEVER DID. THIS INCIDENT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IF THE CTLR DID NOT USE 7700 AS A SQUAWK CODE FOR A POS FIX AND CONFIRMED THAT THE LOST PLT WAS INDEED IN DISTRESS AND WANTED PRIORITY TREATMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.