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Attributes | |
ACN | 982902 |
Time | |
Date | 201112 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Transponder |
Person 1 | |
Function | Single Pilot Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 30 Flight Crew Total 860 Flight Crew Type 680 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Speed All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
I was flying in light to moderate turbulence (for a cherokee) hearing PIREPS from large and even heavy aircraft to ATC that they were experiencing moderate turbulence (for a large aircraft) below 4;500 MSL over the mountains. I was 5;000 MSL over water on the arrival having requested a visual approach in cavu conditions; when I first had held altitude in an updraft that necessitated cutting power to idle and nose down at vno; when the aircraft entered a very strong downdraft that caused me to lose 400 ft before I could arrest the descent at vy with full power. ATC frequency was busy; but I managed to get in about one minute later; 'nxxx is having trouble holding altitude.' ATC then told me that they didn't have a mode C report; and asked for my present altitude. I replied honestly that I was now at 4;700 climbing very slowly; but that I had been at 4;600. ATC then offered a higher altitude; but as I expected to be descending soon (and was soon there after) with vectors to my destination; I declined. ATC then told me that they would keep other aircraft away from me. They kindly kept me at 5;000 as late as possible so that I could descend through the turbulence as quickly as possible. I'm pretty sure that ATC did not get miffed at my altitude bust; though it concerned me (I like flying... And try hard to be safety conscious.) I had done my preflight weather briefing through aviation weather.gov; followed by another flight planner when I filed. I don't recall seeing any sigmets or airmets that would have caused me alarm. Light to moderate turbulence is a fact of life for small aircraft. But; I am concerned that my mode C was not seen... I've checked it several times since I've owned the aircraft. It's working. It has been inspected regularly. Yet; when I'm in class B during certain times; the response light is on more than off! I am concerned that with growing popularity of TCAS; that the once every 12 second sweep of the radar misses my transponder because it is already busy responding to another aircraft's TCAS? This could be a safety issue. Will ads-B fix this?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A single engine aircraft pilot on the PYE1 arrival encountered turbulence at 5;000 FT resulting in a 400 FT altitude loss but ATC was very understanding and replied the aircraft's transponder was not received.
Narrative: I was flying in light to moderate turbulence (for a Cherokee) hearing PIREPS from large and even heavy aircraft to ATC that they were experiencing moderate turbulence (for a large aircraft) below 4;500 MSL over the mountains. I was 5;000 MSL over water on the arrival having requested a visual approach in CAVU conditions; when I first had held altitude in an updraft that necessitated cutting power to idle and nose down at Vno; when the aircraft entered a very strong downdraft that caused me to lose 400 FT before I could arrest the descent at Vy with full power. ATC frequency was busy; but I managed to get in about one minute later; 'NXXX is having trouble holding altitude.' ATC then told me that they didn't have a Mode C report; and asked for my present altitude. I replied honestly that I was now at 4;700 climbing very slowly; but that I had been at 4;600. ATC then offered a higher altitude; but as I expected to be descending soon (and was soon there after) with vectors to my destination; I declined. ATC then told me that they would keep other aircraft away from me. They kindly kept me at 5;000 as late as possible so that I could descend through the turbulence as quickly as possible. I'm pretty sure that ATC did not get miffed at my altitude bust; though it concerned me (I like flying... and try hard to be safety conscious.) I had done my preflight weather briefing through aviation weather.gov; followed by another flight planner when I filed. I don't recall seeing any SIGMETS or AIRMETS that would have caused me alarm. Light to Moderate Turbulence is a fact of life for small aircraft. But; I am concerned that my Mode C was not seen... I've checked it several times since I've owned the aircraft. It's working. It has been inspected regularly. Yet; when I'm in Class B during certain times; the response light is on more than off! I am concerned that with growing popularity of TCAS; that the once every 12 second sweep of the radar misses my transponder because it is already busy responding to another aircraft's TCAS? This could be a safety issue. Will ADS-B fix this?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.