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Attributes | |
ACN | 986988 |
Time | |
Date | 201112 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SCT.TRACON |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Single Piston Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Private Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 35 Flight Crew Total 4500 Flight Crew Type 1100 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Departed the bay area; cleared via airways to ave VOR; then direct L18. Upon hand off to la center; clearance was amended to via sli VOR; ocn VOR; direct. I noted that this routing took me through camp pendleton's R2503 (multiple sectors); but since IFR; I presumed ATC would handle coordination; or perhaps the restricted area was cold. After hand off to the socal sector overlying L18; I arrived at ocn VOR; and turned direct L18. About five minutes later; socal called; asking me where I was going? I replied that I was cleared ocn direct L18. Socal responded; somewhat agitatedly; that I was in the restricted area and gave me a 90 degree right turn to clear the restricted area. I complied and asked him how he thought I was cleared? Socal replied that he didn't know; but not through the restricted area. I guess that made two of us that didn't know what my clearance was supposed to be; not a good circumstance. I then received a clearance direct L18; once direct would keep me clear of the restricted area. The controller advised I was on a three mile downwind; did I have the airport in sight? I replied negative; I was unfamiliar with the airport; and was planning the GPS 18 approach. Socal replied that the only approach available was the visual; so I had to see the airport. I advised socal that I didn't see a NOTAM; either published or in my briefing; that made the approach unavailable. Socal did not reply. I remain curious as to how I could have been on a visual approach though never having been notified by socal that I was on a visual approach. I guess I was meant to infer that from his question about whether I saw the airport. Socal advised that I had flown past the airport; so I turned back toward the airport as illustrated by my IFR-approved GPS. Socal complained that I could not turn since I was on an IFR clearance. Made we wonder what happened to that IFR clearance when I was flying through the restricted area; apparently unbidden. I then canceled IFR; and continued toward the airport; spotting it when about 2 miles away; and 3;000 AGL above. I descended in the pattern; in coordination with other pattern traffic; and landed uneventfully.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: General Aviation pilot described a very confused event regarding an IFR flight into L18 while being handled by SCT. Pilot indicating possible entry into a restricted area because of the IFR routing and confusion regarding a Visual Approach.
Narrative: Departed the Bay Area; cleared via airways to AVE VOR; then direct L18. Upon hand off to LA Center; clearance was amended to via SLI VOR; OCN VOR; direct. I noted that this routing took me through Camp Pendleton's R2503 (multiple sectors); but since IFR; I presumed ATC would handle coordination; or perhaps the restricted area was cold. After hand off to the SOCAL sector overlying L18; I arrived at OCN VOR; and turned direct L18. About five minutes later; SOCAL called; asking me where I was going? I replied that I was cleared OCN direct L18. SOCAL responded; somewhat agitatedly; that I was in the restricted area and gave me a 90 degree right turn to clear the restricted area. I complied and asked him how he thought I was cleared? SOCAL replied that he didn't know; but not through the restricted area. I guess that made two of us that didn't know what my clearance was SUPPOSED to be; not a good circumstance. I then received a clearance direct L18; once direct would keep me clear of the restricted area. The controller advised I was on a three mile downwind; did I have the airport in sight? I replied negative; I was unfamiliar with the airport; and was planning the GPS 18 Approach. SOCAL replied that the ONLY approach available was the visual; so I had to see the airport. I advised SOCAL that I didn't see a NOTAM; either published or in my briefing; that made the approach unavailable. SOCAL did not reply. I remain curious as to how I could have been on a visual approach though never having been notified by SOCAL that I was on a visual approach. I guess I was meant to infer that from his question about whether I saw the airport. SOCAL advised that I had flown past the airport; so I turned back toward the airport as illustrated by my IFR-approved GPS. SOCAL complained that I could not turn since I was on an IFR clearance. Made we wonder what happened to that IFR clearance when I was flying through the restricted area; apparently unbidden. I then canceled IFR; and continued toward the airport; spotting it when about 2 miles away; and 3;000 AGL above. I descended in the pattern; in coordination with other pattern traffic; and landed uneventfully.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.