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Attributes | |
ACN | 100094 |
Time | |
Date | 198812 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dca airport : iad |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 18500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad tower : sgu |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 100094 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Washington departure cleared us to 17000' MSL. Washington departure/dulles approach then transmitted 'maintain 250.' we read back 'maintain 250' and set altitude report alert to 25000'. ATC then questioned our altitude as we climbed through 18500' and told us to maintain 17000'. We were then told to maintain 250 KTS airspeed. When given 'maintain 250,' we understood it to be altitude and read back 'maintain 250.' ATC intent was for us to maintain 250 KTS. Recommend that ATC assure that 'airspeed' is included in all airspeed restrictions and thousand ft or similar altitude reference be included in all altitude assignments.pronounced 'maintain 2-5-0.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT ALT DEVIATION OVERSHOT EXCURSION FROM CLRNC ALT.
Narrative: WASHINGTON DEP CLRED US TO 17000' MSL. WASHINGTON DEP/DULLES APCH THEN XMITTED 'MAINTAIN 250.' WE READ BACK 'MAINTAIN 250' AND SET ALT RPT ALERT TO 25000'. ATC THEN QUESTIONED OUR ALT AS WE CLBED THROUGH 18500' AND TOLD US TO MAINTAIN 17000'. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO MAINTAIN 250 KTS AIRSPD. WHEN GIVEN 'MAINTAIN 250,' WE UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE ALT AND READ BACK 'MAINTAIN 250.' ATC INTENT WAS FOR US TO MAINTAIN 250 KTS. RECOMMEND THAT ATC ASSURE THAT 'AIRSPD' IS INCLUDED IN ALL AIRSPD RESTRICTIONS AND THOUSAND FT OR SIMILAR ALT REF BE INCLUDED IN ALL ALT ASSIGNMENTS.PRONOUNCED 'MAINTAIN 2-5-0.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.