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Attributes | |
ACN | 100431 |
Time | |
Date | 198812 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other other |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 2900 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 100431 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other other |
Narrative:
This situation is a recurrent problem I have noticed, along with many other pilots, concerning the medium large transport heating elements for the a and B windscreens. The design of these heating elements and windscreens results in several filament lines running vertically in the windscreens. The most serious problem I have noticed is on descent over a lot of ground lights like la. As you visually focus you eyes at a distance to acquire traffic if it or any ground lights pass through the vertical heating element distortions my eyes end up focusing to the windscreen causing me to loose the visual on previous acquired traffic. This problem is evident in the day time too, but to a lessor degree. I have also noticed that on CAT ii approachs, with ALS light intensity high, as the lights pass through the vertical distortions I have had a slight increase in sensations of vertigo. I feel, as many other of my fellow medium large transport pilots do that, although we can live with the handicap of these windscreens a situation may arise like air carrier in san diego where traffic is lost because of this windscreen.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT WINDOW HEAT DESIGN CAUSES DISTORTIONS DUE TO DESIGN AND PLACEMENT OF HEATING ELEMENTS
Narrative: THIS SITUATION IS A RECURRENT PROBLEM I HAVE NOTICED, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER PLTS, CONCERNING THE MLG HEATING ELEMENTS FOR THE A AND B WINDSCREENS. THE DESIGN OF THESE HEATING ELEMENTS AND WINDSCREENS RESULTS IN SEVERAL FILAMENT LINES RUNNING VERTICALLY IN THE WINDSCREENS. THE MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM I HAVE NOTICED IS ON DSCNT OVER A LOT OF GND LIGHTS LIKE LA. AS YOU VISUALLY FOCUS YOU EYES AT A DISTANCE TO ACQUIRE TFC IF IT OR ANY GND LIGHTS PASS THROUGH THE VERTICAL HEATING ELEMENT DISTORTIONS MY EYES END UP FOCUSING TO THE WINDSCREEN CAUSING ME TO LOOSE THE VISUAL ON PREVIOUS ACQUIRED TFC. THIS PROBLEM IS EVIDENT IN THE DAY TIME TOO, BUT TO A LESSOR DEGREE. I HAVE ALSO NOTICED THAT ON CAT II APCHS, WITH ALS LIGHT INTENSITY HIGH, AS THE LIGHTS PASS THROUGH THE VERTICAL DISTORTIONS I HAVE HAD A SLIGHT INCREASE IN SENSATIONS OF VERTIGO. I FEEL, AS MANY OTHER OF MY FELLOW MLG PLTS DO THAT, ALTHOUGH WE CAN LIVE WITH THE HANDICAP OF THESE WINDSCREENS A SITUATION MAY ARISE LIKE ACR IN SAN DIEGO WHERE TFC IS LOST BECAUSE OF THIS WINDSCREEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.