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Attributes | |
ACN | 1006460 |
Time | |
Date | 201204 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | D21.TRACON |
State Reference | MI |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport Low Wing 3 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 344 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Fuel Issue Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
Other than poor operations; it was normal going to dtw. On approach; due to high winds we got slowed and headings; as did many other aircraft. The winds were now 310/25 gust 39. They were changing the airport around. Many of us asked ATC what runway to expect only to be told; 'we will get back to you.' I asked my first officer to run performance for all runways with this wind. Finally we were told it would be a west operation. I have never seen dtw in that operation. They seemed slow at making it work. We were told it would be about 15 to 20 minutes before we could go in. I sent a message to dispatch asking my burn to our alternate. Also; asked my first officer to get weather for that airport. High winds; about the same as dtw. Dispatch said burn was 1.6. Here we sat with 5.6. If we go now; we get there with min fuel. Stated my problem to ATC a couple of times; hoping to move to head of the line. All I got was; 'where you diverting to?' then told to stand by while we coordinate; and on a heading north. After ATC talked to other flights; they finally came back and put us on a close heading to our alternate; but not direct. Then they came back with a route with a couple of fixes and an arrival. 5.6 minus 1.6 equals 4.0 without all of these fixes and turns. At this point; I did declare min fuel. I wanted direct my alternate. I realize we were not yet at min fuel; but see above math; which is enough for me. We landed with 4.4; fueled; and went back to dtw.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An unusual west landing operation at DTW resulted in extensive arrival delays; so a Captain requested routing to his alternate which resulted in a near minimum fuel landing.
Narrative: Other than poor operations; it was normal going to DTW. On approach; due to high winds we got slowed and headings; as did many other aircraft. The winds were now 310/25 gust 39. They were changing the airport around. Many of us asked ATC what runway to expect only to be told; 'We will get back to you.' I asked my First Officer to run performance for all runways with this wind. Finally we were told it would be a west operation. I have never seen DTW in that operation. They seemed slow at making it work. We were told it would be about 15 to 20 minutes before we could go in. I sent a message to Dispatch asking my burn to our alternate. Also; asked my First Officer to get weather for that airport. High winds; about the same as DTW. Dispatch said burn was 1.6. Here we sat with 5.6. If we go now; we get there with MIN fuel. Stated my problem to ATC a couple of times; hoping to move to head of the line. All I got was; 'where you diverting to?' Then told to stand by while we coordinate; and on a heading north. After ATC talked to other flights; they finally came back and put us on a close heading to our alternate; but not direct. Then they came back with a route with a couple of fixes and an arrival. 5.6 minus 1.6 equals 4.0 without all of these fixes and turns. At this point; I did declare MIN fuel. I wanted direct my alternate. I realize we were not yet at MIN fuel; but see above math; which is enough for me. We landed with 4.4; fueled; and went back to DTW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.