A training flight inbound to cma for the VOR 26 approach was questioned by ATC when navigating for t...

Attributes
ACN	1007826
Time
Date	201205
Local Time Of Day	1201-1800
Place
Locale Reference	CMA.Airport
State Reference	CA
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Cessna Stationair/Turbo Stationair 6
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	Initial Approach
Route In Use	Other VOR Runway 26
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Instructor Pilot Not Flying
Qualification	Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 60 Flight Crew Total 14000 Flight Crew Type 40
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types

Narrative:

Coming in for the IFR approach to cma outside of fim VOR we were rerouted from fim sespe to fim cooga. Fim cooga is the 132 radial from fim to cooga intersection. This is on the cma VOR 26 approach plate. Our initial clearance had cleared us to cma airport which was our destination. From cooga the procedure requires a procedure turn (pt) for course reversal onto the final approach course. Upon arriving at cooga we made a turn to 097 heading to do a tear drop entry for the pt. As we were on a 097 heading; ATC called and asked our heading. We told them 097 in the pt. They then told us they didn't want us to do a pt. Turn to a heading of 280 to intercept the final approach course of 247. We complied and intercepted the final course outside of baine. The confusion arose from the fact that ATC said they did not want us to do the pt. We were cleared to the cma airport via cooga intersection and the pt is what is depicted on the approach plate from cooga. If the controller did not want us to do what is published then I believe other instructions should have been given.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A training flight inbound to CMA for the VOR 26 approach was questioned by ATC when navigating for the required/published Procedure Turn depicted on the procedure.

Narrative: Coming in for the IFR approach to CMA outside of FIM VOR we were rerouted from FIM SESPE to FIM COOGA. FIM COOGA is the 132 radial from FIM to COOGA Intersection. This is on the CMA VOR 26 approach plate. Our initial clearance had cleared us to CMA airport which was our destination. From COOGA the procedure requires a Procedure Turn (PT) for course reversal onto the final approach course. Upon arriving at COOGA we made a turn to 097 heading to do a tear drop entry for the PT. As we were on a 097 heading; ATC called and asked our heading. We told them 097 in the PT. They then told us they didn't want us to do a PT. Turn to a heading of 280 to intercept the final approach course of 247. We complied and intercepted the final course outside of BAINE. The confusion arose from the fact that ATC said they did not want us to do the PT. We were cleared to the CMA airport via COOGA Intersection and the PT is what is depicted on the Approach Plate from COOGA. If the Controller did not want us to do what is published then I believe other instructions should have been given.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A training flight inbound to cma for the VOR 26 approach was questioned by ATC when navigating for the required/published procedure turn depicted on the procedure.