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Attributes | |
ACN | 1023625 |
Time | |
Date | 201207 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | PHL.Airport |
State Reference | PA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Stationair/Turbo Stationair 6 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach Departure |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude |
Narrative:
A C206 was orbiting at 4;500; VFR; northeast of frose intersection. A CRJ2 was heading 110 at 5;000 ft; IFR. I turned the CRJ2 southeast bound for the downwind to runway 35. I called the cessna traffic and the CRJ2 responded by saying they were responding to an RA and climbing. I called the overhead traffic and the CRJ2 responded by saying they had the B767 in sight maintaining visual separation. I replied saying 'caution wake turbulence.' the CRJ2 was now clear of the C206 and I issued a descent to 4;000 ft. Calibration of the TCAS system needs to be the same as FAA ATC separation minima. Five hundred feet is standard separation between an IFR and VFR aircraft in class B; and then the TCAS equipment needs to be exactly the same. TCAS created something out of nothing. There is no reason for this to happen and it could be a lot worse than what happened today. Rumor has it that TCAS resolution is set at 650 feet which is 150 higher than our minimum separation for IFR/VFR aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PHL Controller described a TCAS RA event between an IFR Air Carrier and VFR traffic that resulted in an additional conflict with other IFR traffic. The Controller recommended re-calibration of TCA to coincide with ATC separation.
Narrative: A C206 was orbiting at 4;500; VFR; NE of FROSE Intersection. A CRJ2 was heading 110 at 5;000 FT; IFR. I turned the CRJ2 southeast bound for the downwind to Runway 35. I called the Cessna traffic and the CRJ2 responded by saying they were responding to an RA and climbing. I called the overhead traffic and the CRJ2 responded by saying they had the B767 in sight maintaining visual separation. I replied saying 'caution wake turbulence.' The CRJ2 was now clear of the C206 and I issued a descent to 4;000 FT. Calibration of the TCAS system needs to be the same as FAA ATC separation minima. Five hundred feet is standard separation between an IFR and VFR aircraft in Class B; and then the TCAS equipment needs to be exactly the same. TCAS created something out of nothing. There is no reason for this to happen and it could be a lot worse than what happened today. Rumor has it that TCAS resolution is set at 650 feet which is 150 higher than our minimum separation for IFR/VFR aircraft.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.