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Attributes | |
ACN | 1023692 |
Time | |
Date | 201207 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | TEB.Airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR JAIKE 3 RNAV |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Altitude Alert |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Landing teb on jaike arrival; ATC assigned direct jaike at 13;000 ft. I left frequency to obtain the ATIS; but had to listen to it 3 times to copy all the info due to the usual problem of frequency 'bleed-over'. Just as I came back to our primary frequency; ATC asked if we had checked on. The pilot flying replied 'yes' that we had to the controller. At about that instant I noticed our position and altitude. Jaike was just behind us and we were passing approximately 19;000 ft in a slow descent. ATC then turned us 20 degrees to the right and I noticed traffic passing 6 miles off our left 1;000 feet below that would have been a factor if not for the turn. A few seconds later ATC issued us 'direct ilene at 13;000 ft. The controller was quite busy and never mentioned anything about our mistake. I think in retrospect that the ATIS frequency bleed issue is a major cause of distraction for crews landing teb. It takes an inordinate about of time to obtain at a very critical phase of the arrival procedure. I also realize that even when I am busy off-frequency I need to remain more aware of the entire situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A Captain on the TEB JAIKE 3 RNAV failed to notice that the First Officer did not descend on the arrival because he was intently monitoring the ATIS; which was difficult to hear because of bleed over.
Narrative: Landing TEB on JAIKE arrival; ATC assigned direct JAIKE at 13;000 FT. I left frequency to obtain the ATIS; but had to listen to it 3 times to copy all the info due to the usual problem of frequency 'bleed-over'. Just as I came back to our primary frequency; ATC asked if we had checked on. The pilot flying replied 'yes' that we had to the Controller. At about that instant I noticed our position and altitude. JAIKE was just behind us and we were passing approximately 19;000 FT in a slow descent. ATC then turned us 20 degrees to the right and I noticed traffic passing 6 miles off our left 1;000 feet below that would have been a factor if not for the turn. A few seconds later ATC issued us 'direct ILENE at 13;000 FT. The Controller was quite busy and never mentioned anything about our mistake. I think in retrospect that the ATIS frequency bleed issue is a major cause of distraction for crews landing TEB. It takes an inordinate about of time to obtain at a very critical phase of the arrival procedure. I also realize that even when I am busy off-frequency I need to remain more aware of the entire situation.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.