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Attributes | |
ACN | 102872 |
Time | |
Date | 198901 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : rno |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 155 flight time total : 15500 flight time type : 958 |
ASRS Report | 102872 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Shortly after level off at FL370 #4 engine flamed out after starting xfeed. As engine appeared to be spinning down I pushed flight start and the observed wildly fluctuating fuel flow and rapidly rising egt. We shut off engine and requested lower altitude from ZLC. Four xmissions were made before ZLC understood our request which was then promptly issued. After completion of the engine failure checklist and leveling at FL290 I elected to try an in-flight restart which was accomplished successfully. We returned to sfo, landing west/O incident. Maintenance found a small amount of water in #3 engine sump. Since then I have received unofficial word that #4 xfeed was found to be functioning improperly and has been replaced. In retrospect what first appeared to be a flame out was instead a low idle and could have been better assessed by first descending to a 3 engine capable flight altitude before attempting corrective action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ENGINE WENT TO FLT IDLE. AFTER RESTART, RETURNED TO DEP ARPT.
Narrative: SHORTLY AFTER LEVEL OFF AT FL370 #4 ENG FLAMED OUT AFTER STARTING XFEED. AS ENG APPEARED TO BE SPINNING DOWN I PUSHED FLT START AND THE OBSERVED WILDLY FLUCTUATING FUEL FLOW AND RAPIDLY RISING EGT. WE SHUT OFF ENG AND REQUESTED LOWER ALT FROM ZLC. FOUR XMISSIONS WERE MADE BEFORE ZLC UNDERSTOOD OUR REQUEST WHICH WAS THEN PROMPTLY ISSUED. AFTER COMPLETION OF THE ENG FAILURE CHKLIST AND LEVELING AT FL290 I ELECTED TO TRY AN INFLT RESTART WHICH WAS ACCOMPLISHED SUCCESSFULLY. WE RETURNED TO SFO, LNDG W/O INCIDENT. MAINT FOUND A SMALL AMOUNT OF WATER IN #3 ENG SUMP. SINCE THEN I HAVE RECEIVED UNOFFICIAL WORD THAT #4 XFEED WAS FOUND TO BE FUNCTIONING IMPROPERLY AND HAS BEEN REPLACED. IN RETROSPECT WHAT FIRST APPEARED TO BE A FLAME OUT WAS INSTEAD A LOW IDLE AND COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER ASSESSED BY FIRST DSNDING TO A 3 ENG CAPABLE FLT ALT BEFORE ATTEMPTING CORRECTIVE ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.