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Attributes | |
ACN | 1030199 |
Time | |
Date | 201208 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.TACAN |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Pressurization System |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Critical |
Narrative:
While on the climb out I noticed that my ears began to pop and the feeling of pressure was different than normal. As a result I looked down at the pressurization panel and noticed that the cabin was climbing at about 1;800 FPM; almost the same rate as the aircraft. When we leveled at 8;000 ft; the cabin altitude was 5;600 ft. At that time the captain and I discussed the situation. He then transferred the controls and the radios to me as he contacted maintenance control to discuss the situation. I informed ATC we had an issue and needed to stay at 8;000 ft. ATC then began to vector us to keep us out of the departure/arrival paths. The captain then returned to the radios and informed me that maintenance said we should try to continue the climb. I notified ATC and we were cleared to 14;000 ft. As we passed through 11;000 ft we got the amber cabin altitude message. The captain then said that we needed to descend back to 8;000 ft. We notified ATC of such and were immediately cleared to 8;000 ft.passing through 10;300 ft; we got the red cabin altitude warning. We ran the immediate action items and donned our oxygen masks. By the time the immediate action items were run we had returned to 8;000 ft; we were then cleared to 7;000 ft. As we began to run the rest of the QRH we reviewed and discussed both the red warning message and the amber message QRH. We elected due to the low altitude to not drop the masks as required by the red warning QRH; but not required per the amber message. I then removed my oxygen mask and took the controls while the captain removed his; then returned the controls and radios to him while I notified the flight attendant. Once the emergency was resolved and the crew was all in the loop the aircraft was prepared for landing. Landing occurred under max landing weight. Fire equipment had been dispatched even though we stated it was not required. After landing the trucks followed us to the north hold line.the event occurred due to the cargo door not being properly shut after all bags were loaded. Maintenance personnel pressurized the aircraft and found no pressurization leaks. They then inspected the baggage door and found that the door had not properly sealed.this issue could have possibly been prevented in three ways. First; a full walk around by ground personnel to check that all aircraft doors had been shut might have prevented it. The second would have been if maintenance control had not asked us to try and climb higher. With passengers on board 'testing' to see if the cabin will climb more is not a best practice and should not be suggested by maintenance control. Third; as a crew we should have declined the suggestion/direction of maintenance control to climb and just returned to the airport.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CRJ flight crew declared an emergency and returned to their departure airport when they were unable to pressurize the cabin. Maintenance discovered a cargo door was not sealing properly when closed.
Narrative: While on the climb out I noticed that my ears began to pop and the feeling of pressure was different than normal. As a result I looked down at the pressurization panel and noticed that the cabin was climbing at about 1;800 FPM; almost the same rate as the aircraft. When we leveled at 8;000 FT; the cabin altitude was 5;600 FT. At that time the Captain and I discussed the situation. He then transferred the controls and the radios to me as he contacted Maintenance Control to discuss the situation. I informed ATC we had an issue and needed to stay at 8;000 FT. ATC then began to vector us to keep us out of the departure/arrival paths. The Captain then returned to the radios and informed me that Maintenance said we should try to continue the climb. I notified ATC and we were cleared to 14;000 FT. As we passed through 11;000 FT we got the amber CABIN ALT message. The Captain then said that we needed to descend back to 8;000 FT. We notified ATC of such and were immediately cleared to 8;000 FT.Passing through 10;300 FT; we got the red CABIN ALT warning. We ran the immediate action items and donned our oxygen masks. By the time the immediate action items were run we had returned to 8;000 FT; we were then cleared to 7;000 FT. As we began to run the rest of the QRH we reviewed and discussed both the RED warning message and the AMBER message QRH. We elected due to the low altitude to not drop the masks as required by the RED warning QRH; but not required per the AMBER message. I then removed my oxygen mask and took the controls while the Captain removed his; then returned the controls and radios to him while I notified the Flight Attendant. Once the emergency was resolved and the crew was all in the loop the aircraft was prepared for landing. Landing occurred under max landing weight. Fire equipment had been dispatched even though we stated it was not required. After landing the trucks followed us to the North Hold Line.The event occurred due to the cargo door not being properly shut after all bags were loaded. Maintenance personnel pressurized the aircraft and found no pressurization leaks. They then inspected the baggage door and found that the door had not properly sealed.This issue could have possibly been prevented in three ways. First; a full walk around by ground personnel to check that all aircraft doors had been shut might have prevented it. The second would have been if Maintenance Control had not asked us to try and climb higher. With passengers on board 'testing' to see if the cabin will climb more is not a best practice and should not be suggested by Maintenance Control. Third; as a crew we should have declined the suggestion/direction of Maintenance Control to climb and just returned to the airport.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.