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Attributes | |
ACN | 103335 |
Time | |
Date | 198901 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sea |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 103335 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Takeoff RVR had gone down to 400'. We waited for takeoff RVR to increase to 600. Regulations read 3 RVR must read 600'. However if 1 RVR is inoperative you can takeoff as long as approach and rollout read 600'. All 3 were working at the time, though we felt a takeoff was possible because approach and rollout read 600'. This regulation is very ambiguous. Upon reading the regulation again, we felt we should have waited, although we were within limits
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR WDB TKOF IN WX REPORTED BELOW ARPT TKOF MINIMUMS.
Narrative: TKOF RVR HAD GONE DOWN TO 400'. WE WAITED FOR TKOF RVR TO INCREASE TO 600. REGS READ 3 RVR MUST READ 600'. HOWEVER IF 1 RVR IS INOP YOU CAN TKOF AS LONG AS APCH AND ROLLOUT READ 600'. ALL 3 WERE WORKING AT THE TIME, THOUGH WE FELT A TKOF WAS POSSIBLE BECAUSE APCH AND ROLLOUT READ 600'. THIS REG IS VERY AMBIGUOUS. UPON READING THE REG AGAIN, WE FELT WE SHOULD HAVE WAITED, ALTHOUGH WE WERE WITHIN LIMITS
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.