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Attributes | |
ACN | 106043 |
Time | |
Date | 198903 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : esl |
State Reference | WV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 30000 msl bound upper : 31100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 106043 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified atc |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 27000 vertical : 1100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was given clearance X25 west esl FL290. Air carrier Y was given clearance X25 west esl FL250. Situation was monitored from beginning to end. When X started his descent there was approximately 10 miles. I then started Y down. Y showed an initial descent rate of 2500 to 2750 FPM. When I saw that separation was getting minimal I turned X 15 degrees right. No evasive action was required. This error occurred because of bad judgement. More positive control should have been used.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN TWO ACR. OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X WAS GIVEN CLRNC X25 W ESL FL290. ACR Y WAS GIVEN CLRNC X25 W ESL FL250. SITUATION WAS MONITORED FROM BEGINNING TO END. WHEN X STARTED HIS DSCNT THERE WAS APPROX 10 MILES. I THEN STARTED Y DOWN. Y SHOWED AN INITIAL DSCNT RATE OF 2500 TO 2750 FPM. WHEN I SAW THAT SEPARATION WAS GETTING MINIMAL I TURNED X 15 DEGS RIGHT. NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS REQUIRED. THIS ERROR OCCURRED BECAUSE OF BAD JUDGEMENT. MORE POSITIVE CONTROL SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.