While attempting to obtain clearance into the TCA reporter aircraft inadvertently entered an air tra...

Attributes
ACN	106170
Time
Date	198903
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : see airport : myf
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2300 msl bound upper : 2300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : san
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7200 flight time type : 250
ASRS Report	106170
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Departed very busy montgomery field VFR for psp after 2 practice ILS approachs. Departure control would not provide advisories. While trying to get a TCA clearance we skimmed the air traffic area of gillespie field. We were so busy dodging 3 other aircraft, terrain, trying to get a word in edgewise with departure control, we got too close. It looked like five statute mi to gillespie, but radar controller told us were only 3 mi. It was as dense air traffic as I've ever seen!! Solution: ban VFR flts in southern california, impeach all politicians for not spending the trust fund to hire more ATC help.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: WHILE ATTEMPTING TO OBTAIN CLRNC INTO THE TCA REPORTER ACFT INADVERTENTLY ENTERED AN ATA.

Narrative: DEPARTED VERY BUSY MONTGOMERY FIELD VFR FOR PSP AFTER 2 PRACTICE ILS APCHS. DEP CTL WOULD NOT PROVIDE ADVISORIES. WHILE TRYING TO GET A TCA CLRNC WE SKIMMED THE ATA OF GILLESPIE FIELD. WE WERE SO BUSY DODGING 3 OTHER ACFT, TERRAIN, TRYING TO GET A WORD IN EDGEWISE WITH DEP CTL, WE GOT TOO CLOSE. IT LOOKED LIKE FIVE STATUTE MI TO GILLESPIE, BUT RADAR CTLR TOLD US WERE ONLY 3 MI. IT WAS AS DENSE AIR TFC AS I'VE EVER SEEN!! SOLUTION: BAN VFR FLTS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, IMPEACH ALL POLITICIANS FOR NOT SPENDING THE TRUST FUND TO HIRE MORE ATC HELP.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

While attempting to obtain clearance into the TCA reporter aircraft inadvertently entered an air traffic area.