ZNY controller described a loss of separation event; noting current facility separation requirement ...

Attributes
ACN	1063009
Time
Date	201301
Local Time Of Day	1201-1800
Place
Locale Reference	ZNY.ARTCC
State Reference	NY
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	A320
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Cruise
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Falcon 900
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	Climb
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Enroute
Qualification	Air Traffic Control Fully Certified
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy

Narrative:

A A320 level FL350 southbound to bovic L461 non-radar estimated bovic [within 2 minutes]. Falcon 900 bermuda departure radar direct bovic climbing to FL360. Took over the sector with this situation in place. The falcon 900 did not reach FL360 15 minutes prior to passing the A320. Based on estimates the aircraft passed. Did not realize this situation until after loss of separation and the A320 had been radar identified. Separation rules that pertain to the airspace in question and updated to 7110.65. Present rules were recently instituted by new york center oceanic and airspace procedures office which require more separation between a radar and non-radar aircraft than is needed between 2 non-radar aircraft. This is counter intuitive as the separation should be less.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ZNY Controller described a loss of separation event; noting current facility separation requirement exceed those listed in national FAA Orders.

Narrative: A A320 level FL350 southbound to BOVIC L461 non-RADAR estimated BOVIC [within 2 minutes]. Falcon 900 Bermuda departure RADAR direct BOVIC climbing to FL360. Took over the sector with this situation in place. The Falcon 900 did not reach FL360 15 minutes prior to passing the A320. Based on estimates the aircraft passed. Did not realize this situation until after loss of separation and the A320 had been RADAR identified. Separation rules that pertain to the airspace in question and updated to 7110.65. Present rules were recently instituted by New York Center Oceanic and Airspace Procedures Office which require more separation between a RADAR and non-RADAR aircraft than is needed between 2 non-RADAR aircraft. This is counter intuitive as the separation should be less.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

ZNY controller described a loss of separation event; noting current facility separation requirement exceed those listed in national FAA orders.