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Attributes | |
ACN | 1063545 |
Time | |
Date | 201301 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream V / G500 / G550 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 120 Flight Crew Total 13500 Flight Crew Type 3100 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Undershoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
On departure I as captain elected to let a new first officer fly the leg. This is only the second time since his training that he has flown the actual aircraft; and in addition; it is our company policy that the first officer will not fly from the left seat; but only from the right seat.I have flown as captain on commuter airlines for 2 years; but that was almost 25 years prior to this flight. I have not been trained from the left seat for a pilot flying from the right seat in this type of aircraft. Before our departure we had briefed the departure; and were comfortable with the plan. This departure requires that you maintain 1;700 ft until 2.2 DME from the VOR. I elected to stay in a manual mode and not use the automation at that time.after the 2.2 DME fix we were to make a right turn to 210 heading; climb to 4;000 ft; and get radar vectors to the next fix. The takeoff went ok; but the aircraft was very light; and the first officer was not leveling quickly enough to maintain the required altitude; so I was distracted from the DME fix; and worked with him to get the plane leveled off by 1;700 ft. After that our FMS autotuned to another VOR; and we lost our DME. By the time I got it back we had passed our DME fix; and needed to climb and turn.it got a bit confusing at this point; but we got things back together; and the remainder of the flight was uneventful. We were not asked any questions from departure; nor did we get any terrain notice. There is a group of hills off the departure end of the runway; and we were fairly low before we turned; and continued our climb.I bring all of this up in regard to the new task of training from a position I am not that familiar with at this time; and not using the automation which I had. Some of the reason for not using the automation is that upon the turn I have found the plane sometimes will sequence to the next fix without remaining on the required heading. In retrospect I should have monitored the automation; instead of trying to train; and monitor a raw data situation. I do not believe our company has any policies concerning this type of situation; but I will definitely address this in the future. I have flown this aircraft for many years; but this is only the second time I have allowed someone to fly from the right seat with myself monitoring from the left. It does present a very different situation as events occur. I have gotten used to visualizing things from the right seat while someone is flying; but the reversal of that makes things quite different.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Gulfstream V corporate flight crew deviated from departure procedure. Captain stated distraction dealing with First Officer climb rate was a contributor to the incident.
Narrative: On departure I as Captain elected to let a new First Officer fly the leg. This is only the second time since his training that he has flown the actual aircraft; and in addition; it is our company policy that the First Officer will not fly from the left seat; but only from the right seat.I have flown as Captain on commuter airlines for 2 years; but that was almost 25 years prior to this flight. I have not been trained from the left seat for a pilot flying from the right seat in this type of aircraft. Before our departure we had briefed the departure; and were comfortable with the plan. This departure requires that you maintain 1;700 FT until 2.2 DME from the VOR. I elected to stay in a manual mode and not use the automation at that time.After the 2.2 DME fix we were to make a right turn to 210 heading; climb to 4;000 FT; and get radar vectors to the next fix. The takeoff went OK; but the aircraft was very light; and the First Officer was not leveling quickly enough to maintain the required altitude; so I was distracted from the DME fix; and worked with him to get the plane leveled off by 1;700 FT. After that our FMS autotuned to another VOR; and we lost our DME. By the time I got it back we had passed our DME fix; and needed to climb and turn.It got a bit confusing at this point; but we got things back together; and the remainder of the flight was uneventful. We were not asked any questions from Departure; nor did we get any terrain notice. There is a group of hills off the departure end of the runway; and we were fairly low before we turned; and continued our climb.I bring all of this up in regard to the new task of training from a position I am not that familiar with at this time; and not using the automation which I had. Some of the reason for not using the automation is that upon the turn I have found the plane sometimes will sequence to the next fix without remaining on the required heading. In retrospect I should have monitored the automation; instead of trying to train; and monitor a raw data situation. I do not believe our company has any policies concerning this type of situation; but I will definitely address this in the future. I have flown this aircraft for many years; but this is only the second time I have allowed someone to fly from the right seat with myself monitoring from the left. It does present a very different situation as events occur. I have gotten used to visualizing things from the right seat while someone is flying; but the reversal of that makes things quite different.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.