Medium large transport given vector made too slow a turn to satisfy radar controller.

Attributes
ACN	106598
Time
Date	198903
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ord
State Reference	IL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ord
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent other
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 185 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	106598
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other

Narrative:

While being vectored for an approach to runway 14R at ord, we were given a heading (right turn from our westerly heading) of 080 degrees and a descent to 3000' from 4000'. As we passed 060 degrees the approach controller told us to maintain our present heading and 'tell me when you want to land.' the captain and I did not know what was wrong as the controller did not tell us. After landing the captain called the supervisor who told us our rate of turn was too slow. We prefer to operate our aircraft at no greater than standard rate turns and pitch attitudes of not greater than 15 degrees and 10 degrees, unless it is necessary to do so. If the approach controller wanted, or needed, a greater than standard rate turn he should have requested a tighter turn. We are more than happy to cooperate but we need to have good communication so that both aircraft and controllers can coordinate operations better.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: MLG GIVEN VECTOR MADE TOO SLOW A TURN TO SATISFY RADAR CTLR.

Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED FOR AN APCH TO RWY 14R AT ORD, WE WERE GIVEN A HDG (RIGHT TURN FROM OUR WESTERLY HDG) OF 080 DEGS AND A DSCNT TO 3000' FROM 4000'. AS WE PASSED 060 DEGS THE APCH CTLR TOLD US TO MAINTAIN OUR PRESENT HDG AND 'TELL ME WHEN YOU WANT TO LAND.' THE CAPT AND I DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG AS THE CTLR DID NOT TELL US. AFTER LNDG THE CAPT CALLED THE SUPVR WHO TOLD US OUR RATE OF TURN WAS TOO SLOW. WE PREFER TO OPERATE OUR ACFT AT NO GREATER THAN STANDARD RATE TURNS AND PITCH ATTITUDES OF NOT GREATER THAN 15 DEGS AND 10 DEGS, UNLESS IT IS NECESSARY TO DO SO. IF THE APCH CTLR WANTED, OR NEEDED, A GREATER THAN STANDARD RATE TURN HE SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED A TIGHTER TURN. WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COOPERATE BUT WE NEED TO HAVE GOOD COM SO THAT BOTH ACFT AND CTLRS CAN COORDINATE OPS BETTER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.