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Attributes | |
ACN | 1068710 |
Time | |
Date | 201302 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | FO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B777 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 140 Flight Crew Total 23500 Flight Crew Type 3000 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Relief Pilot First Officer |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 225 Flight Crew Total 14500 Flight Crew Type 3700 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Dispatch had 1 hour (3439 lbs) of taxi fuel on board the aircraft due to snow and de-ice. When the fuel sheet got to the cockpit we had an extra 500 lbs of fuel over requested. We deiced at the remote parking spot. If we could have taxied straight forward we were less than 500 feet from the departure runway. During deicing it became obvious that we would weight about 514.0 for takeoff; and we had received our final weights showing a takeoff weight of 510.5. We were unable to override this takeoff weight to get V speeds for a 514.0 take-off weight.we had to get dispatch to give us the numbers for wet runway; anti-ice on; and 514.0 weight. Crews should be able to override the takeoff weight to get correct numbers. Does this mean that any time we have not burned the complete taxi fuel we are not legal for takeoff?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Crew is unable to modify and correct outdated takeoff data supplied by Dispatch.
Narrative: Dispatch had 1 hour (3439 lbs) of taxi fuel on board the aircraft due to snow and de-ice. When the fuel sheet got to the cockpit we had an extra 500 lbs of fuel over requested. We deiced at the remote parking spot. If we could have taxied straight forward we were less than 500 feet from the departure runway. During deicing it became obvious that we would weight about 514.0 for takeoff; and we had received our final weights showing a takeoff weight of 510.5. We were unable to override this takeoff weight to get V speeds for a 514.0 take-off weight.We had to get Dispatch to give us the numbers for wet runway; anti-ice on; and 514.0 weight. Crews should be able to override the takeoff weight to get correct numbers. Does this mean that any time we have not burned the complete taxi fuel we are not legal for takeoff?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.