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Attributes | |
ACN | 108189 |
Time | |
Date | 198904 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mem |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 108188 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Was scheduled off line and onto training schedule. Was at airport administering far part 61 type ratings aircraft (am designated pilot examiner). Crew scheduling asked if I could take a trip following day. Explained that I would need minimum rest of 8 hours after completing check rides. We delayed trip show time, as well as departure time, normal 45 mins after show time. Received 8 hours reduced rest. Flew 6.7 hours, scheduled 121 plus 3.9 part 91 for part 61 type rides that I had forgotten about for total of 10.6 hours flight time in 24 hour period. Should have had 9 hours reduced rest. Did receive 11 hours compensatory rest before reporting for flight duty the following day. Did not realize error until after we added up time flown for that day. It was not my intention to violate any far's, and I thought that we were ok. Crew scheduling assigned me to the duty knowing that I had flown the check rides plus they knew that the trip they assigned me to was more than 4.1 hours. My mistake was not thinking to check total time and including the check ride time. To correct this from happening again I would suggest that this company hire sufficient crews to adequately cover the flight schedule rather than always scrounging at the last minute to find a crew member. They are trying to cover an far 121 operation with less crews than they had when we were far 135. (We just changed over 3/89.)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REPORTER VIOLATED MAXIMUM FLT TIME IN 24 HOUR PERIOD. ERROR DETECTED AFTER FLT SCHEDULE COMPLETED.
Narrative: WAS SCHEDULED OFF LINE AND ONTO TRNING SCHEDULE. WAS AT ARPT ADMINISTERING FAR PART 61 TYPE RATINGS ACFT (AM DESIGNATED PLT EXAMINER). CREW SCHEDULING ASKED IF I COULD TAKE A TRIP FOLLOWING DAY. EXPLAINED THAT I WOULD NEED MINIMUM REST OF 8 HRS AFTER COMPLETING CHK RIDES. WE DELAYED TRIP SHOW TIME, AS WELL AS DEP TIME, NORMAL 45 MINS AFTER SHOW TIME. RECEIVED 8 HRS REDUCED REST. FLEW 6.7 HRS, SCHEDULED 121 PLUS 3.9 PART 91 FOR PART 61 TYPE RIDES THAT I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT FOR TOTAL OF 10.6 HRS FLT TIME IN 24 HR PERIOD. SHOULD HAVE HAD 9 HRS REDUCED REST. DID RECEIVE 11 HRS COMPENSATORY REST BEFORE RPTING FOR FLT DUTY THE FOLLOWING DAY. DID NOT REALIZE ERROR UNTIL AFTER WE ADDED UP TIME FLOWN FOR THAT DAY. IT WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO VIOLATE ANY FAR'S, AND I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE OK. CREW SCHEDULING ASSIGNED ME TO THE DUTY KNOWING THAT I HAD FLOWN THE CHK RIDES PLUS THEY KNEW THAT THE TRIP THEY ASSIGNED ME TO WAS MORE THAN 4.1 HRS. MY MISTAKE WAS NOT THINKING TO CHK TOTAL TIME AND INCLUDING THE CHK RIDE TIME. TO CORRECT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS COMPANY HIRE SUFFICIENT CREWS TO ADEQUATELY COVER THE FLT SCHEDULE RATHER THAN ALWAYS SCROUNGING AT THE LAST MINUTE TO FIND A CREW MEMBER. THEY ARE TRYING TO COVER AN FAR 121 OPERATION WITH LESS CREWS THAN THEY HAD WHEN WE WERE FAR 135. (WE JUST CHANGED OVER 3/89.)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.