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Crj-200 captain reports confusion departing clt on the CLT1 departure; with the chart depicting a turn at 1.6 DME north of the VOR and the text indicating a turn to 200 degrees 1.6 DME south when departing runway 18C.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1089917 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201305 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | CLT.Airport |
| State Reference | NC |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Route In Use | SID CLT1 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
We were cleared via the charlotte one departure; pitty transition and departing 18C. We briefed the departure which showed the turn before the clt VOR and the FMS agreed with that. We were to fly a 183 heading until 1.6 DME then turn to a 200 heading. We departed and the FMS had us turn at 600 feet this seemed too soon; but I looked at the departure and the turn was definitely depicted before the VOR. We were switched to departure and I told them that we were on a 200 heading. They said nothing so I thought that the turn was done correctly. Once on the ground we looked at this again and both agreed that the turn seemed early but it was depicted as before the VOR. The next day I was stilled puzzled by this so I called a manager. He agreed that it seemed the turn should be before the VOR but seemed confusing so he looked into the matter. Later he sent an email that said the turn should be 1.6 miles after the clt VOR. This means that we turned too soon.we did brief the departure; but maybe we should have used our experience on other departures and questioned why this turn was before the VOR not after the VOR as the other departures depict. I think the charlotte one departure is depicted in a confusing way; but I will be more vigilant in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ-200 Captain reports confusion departing CLT on the CLT1 departure; with the chart depicting a turn at 1.6 DME north of the VOR and the text indicating a turn to 200 degrees 1.6 DME south when departing Runway 18C.
Narrative: We were cleared via the Charlotte one departure; PITTY transition and departing 18C. We briefed the departure which showed the turn before the CLT VOR and the FMS agreed with that. We were to fly a 183 heading until 1.6 DME then turn to a 200 heading. We departed and the FMS had us turn at 600 feet this seemed too soon; but I looked at the departure and the turn was definitely depicted before the VOR. We were switched to departure and I told them that we were on a 200 heading. They said nothing so I thought that the turn was done correctly. Once on the ground we looked at this again and both agreed that the turn seemed early but it was depicted as before the VOR. The next day I was stilled puzzled by this so I called a manager. He agreed that it seemed the turn should be before the VOR but seemed confusing so he looked into the matter. Later he sent an email that said the turn should be 1.6 miles after the CLT VOR. This means that we turned too soon.We did brief the departure; but maybe we should have used our experience on other departures and questioned why this turn was before the VOR not after the VOR as the other departures depict. I think the Charlotte One departure is depicted in a confusing way; but I will be more vigilant in the future.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.