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Attributes | |
ACN | 109049 |
Time | |
Date | 198904 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : swf |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 109049 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 13200 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 109050 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On descent into hpn, ZBW cleared us to 7000'. After handoff to N90 the next controller stated that we could maintain 10000' in order to keep our speed up. In due time I descended to 7000'. Passing 9600' we were questioned on our altitude. It was obvious that the controller considered the 10000' clearance as an assigned altitude. However, both copilot and I were left with the understanding that we were still cleared to 7000'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER RECEIVING DESCENT CLRNC TO 7000' REPORTER REQUESTED TO REMAIN AT 10000' TO KEEP SPEED UP PRIOR TO INITIATING FURTHER DESCENT. ATC CONCURRED, BUT BELIEVED THEY HAD ISSUED A NEW CLRNC TO MAINTAIN 10000'.
Narrative: ON DSCNT INTO HPN, ZBW CLRED US TO 7000'. AFTER HDOF TO N90 THE NEXT CTLR STATED THAT WE COULD MAINTAIN 10000' IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR SPD UP. IN DUE TIME I DSNDED TO 7000'. PASSING 9600' WE WERE QUESTIONED ON OUR ALT. IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THE CTLR CONSIDERED THE 10000' CLRNC AS AN ASSIGNED ALT. HOWEVER, BOTH COPLT AND I WERE LEFT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE STILL CLRED TO 7000'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.