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Attributes | |
ACN | 1092292 |
Time | |
Date | 201306 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ATL.Airport |
State Reference | GA |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Falcon 900 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Learjet 60 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Departure Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
I was working an F900. I pointed out the aircraft to adjacent satellite sector (P) on an eastbound heading at 90. Sat (P) had LJ60 traffic at 70 and handed him off to the departure sector (north). North has control for climb after accepting the radar handoff. North climbed the LR60 on a northeasterly heading. Sat P failed to point out his accepted point out to the departure sector. I noticed the LJ60 climbing into my traffic; I immediately issued a turn to 180 heading on my F900. I determined this turn was not sufficient and turned the aircraft more to the southwest and descended the aircraft to 80. I have no idea the proximity; but it looked close. These procedures seem a little misleading to me. The departure sector(south) that I hand off too doesn't own airspace for 20 miles and we are not required to point out the aircraft to the (north) sector. The P sector is required to do the point out but that sector is very often extremely busy running all departures and arrivals for both lzu and pdk. So as it often happens; P is responsible for separation of 2 aircraft when he is talking to neither one. I understand it was an error on the P controller but it seems we could maybe standardize the procedure as it is done differently by numerous controllers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A80 Controller described a loss of separation event claiming the local point out procedures are less than positive with regard to controller actions and responsibilities.
Narrative: I was working an F900. I pointed out the aircraft to adjacent satellite Sector (P) on an eastbound heading at 90. Sat (P) had LJ60 traffic at 70 and handed him off to the Departure Sector (N). N has control for climb after accepting the radar handoff. N climbed the LR60 on a northeasterly heading. Sat P failed to point out his accepted point out to the departure sector. I noticed the LJ60 climbing into my traffic; I immediately issued a turn to 180 heading on my F900. I determined this turn was not sufficient and turned the aircraft more to the southwest and descended the aircraft to 80. I have no idea the proximity; but it looked close. These procedures seem a little misleading to me. The departure sector(S) that I hand off too doesn't own airspace for 20 miles and we are not required to point out the aircraft to the (N) Sector. The P Sector is required to do the point out but that sector is very often extremely busy running all departures and arrivals for both LZU and PDK. So as it often happens; P is responsible for separation of 2 aircraft when he is talking to neither one. I understand it was an error on the P controller but it seems we could maybe standardize the procedure as it is done differently by numerous controllers.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.