First officer complaint about aeronautical chart presentation SID at ont.

Attributes
ACN	110097
Time
Date	198905
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ont
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff climbout : initial ground : preflight
Route In Use	departure sid : sid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 300
ASRS Report	110097
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Chart Or Publication
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
Publication	Unspecified

Narrative:

This is to call your attention to a potential problem on departure at ont. The prado 2 instrument departure on runway 26L/right is, 'turn left, thence...' no indication of how soon turn should be executed nor an altitude. On taxi out, we observed a sign toward the end of taxiway stating, 'on prado 2 departure, do not start turn until 2000' MSL,' or words to that effect. Unfortunately, this is not on the SID (dated 12/88), 10-3C, nor on the IFR departure procedure on the back of the airport page (10-9A, 1/88). I understand that this is for noise abatement, but shouldn't this be on the SID also?

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FO COMPLAINT ABOUT AERO CHART PRESENTATION SID AT ONT.

Narrative: THIS IS TO CALL YOUR ATTN TO A POTENTIAL PROB ON DEP AT ONT. THE PRADO 2 INSTRUMENT DEP ON RWY 26L/R IS, 'TURN LEFT, THENCE...' NO INDICATION OF HOW SOON TURN SHOULD BE EXECUTED NOR AN ALT. ON TAXI OUT, WE OBSERVED A SIGN TOWARD THE END OF TXWY STATING, 'ON PRADO 2 DEP, DO NOT START TURN UNTIL 2000' MSL,' OR WORDS TO THAT EFFECT. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS NOT ON THE SID (DATED 12/88), 10-3C, NOR ON THE IFR DEP PROC ON THE BACK OF THE ARPT PAGE (10-9A, 1/88). I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS FOR NOISE ABATEMENT, BUT SHOULDN'T THIS BE ON THE SID ALSO?

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.