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Attributes | |
ACN | 110599 |
Time | |
Date | 198905 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : btl |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau tower : bhm |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : military |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 110599 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : military |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 116 |
ASRS Report | 110760 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : vfr in imc inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
3 ship tactical formation flying low level route at 500' AGL. Attempted WX avoidance with 30 degree bank turn. Entered WX while in the turn. Called rollout heading 300 degrees. Started climb 1000' FPM. #2 called level 4500' sounded like in the clear. #1 and #3 continued climb at 5000'. Sun was visible above but did not break out on top until 10000'. Leveled at 11500', called for clearance. Supplemental information from acn 110760: problem was caused by failure to totally avoid an area where a snowstorm was in progress. Solution to our misfortunate situation is simple--if you cannot maintain VFR at all times, don't push it!!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT OF 3 MIL ACFT ON 500' AGL TRAINING MISSION ENCOUNTERED WX VISIBILITY BELOW VISUAL RULES AND CLIMBED THROUGH OVERCAST TO ON TOP. REGROUPED AND COORDINATED IFR CLRNC TO DESTINATION.
Narrative: 3 SHIP TACTICAL FORMATION FLYING LOW LEVEL ROUTE AT 500' AGL. ATTEMPTED WX AVOIDANCE WITH 30 DEG BANK TURN. ENTERED WX WHILE IN THE TURN. CALLED ROLLOUT HDG 300 DEGS. STARTED CLB 1000' FPM. #2 CALLED LEVEL 4500' SOUNDED LIKE IN THE CLR. #1 AND #3 CONTINUED CLB AT 5000'. SUN WAS VISIBLE ABOVE BUT DID NOT BREAK OUT ON TOP UNTIL 10000'. LEVELED AT 11500', CALLED FOR CLRNC. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 110760: PROB WAS CAUSED BY FAILURE TO TOTALLY AVOID AN AREA WHERE A SNOWSTORM WAS IN PROGRESS. SOLUTION TO OUR MISFORTUNATE SITUATION IS SIMPLE--IF YOU CANNOT MAINTAIN VFR AT ALL TIMES, DON'T PUSH IT!!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.