<< >> NASA ASRS Report 110749, May 1989

Flight crew of small transport requesting deviation from clearance account WX were denied until another controller took over and accommodated them.

Attributes
ACN	110749
Time
Date	198905
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : cmh
State Reference	OH
Altitude	msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : cmh
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 50
ASRS Report	110749
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Local thunderstorm and reported 'severe' turbulence was in area. ATC was intent upon traffic sequencing west/O regard to conditions. Cmh approach assigned headings and altitudes destined to result in trw penetration. We offered to proceed VFR to airport (insight), but were denied. Requested heading and altitude changes, but were denied. On the verge of declaring an emergency, we informed approach we were deviating. The next moment a new controller was evident on frequency. The new controller acknowledged our 'operational need' to deviate and 'approved deviation as required.' it should be noted that air traffic controllers need to listen as well as talk.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT CREW OF SMT REQUESTING DEVIATION FROM CLRNC ACCOUNT WX WERE DENIED UNTIL ANOTHER CTLR TOOK OVER AND ACCOMMODATED THEM.

Narrative: LCL TSTM AND RPTED 'SEVERE' TURB WAS IN AREA. ATC WAS INTENT UPON TFC SEQUENCING W/O REGARD TO CONDITIONS. CMH APCH ASSIGNED HDGS AND ALTS DESTINED TO RESULT IN TRW PENETRATION. WE OFFERED TO PROCEED VFR TO ARPT (INSIGHT), BUT WERE DENIED. REQUESTED HDG AND ALT CHANGES, BUT WERE DENIED. ON THE VERGE OF DECLARING AN EMER, WE INFORMED APCH WE WERE DEVIATING. THE NEXT MOMENT A NEW CTLR WAS EVIDENT ON FREQ. THE NEW CTLR ACKNOWLEDGED OUR 'OPERATIONAL NEED' TO DEVIATE AND 'APPROVED DEVIATION AS REQUIRED.' IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT AIR TFC CTLRS NEED TO LISTEN AS WELL AS TALK.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.