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Attributes | |
ACN | 1108131 |
Time | |
Date | 201308 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | BOS.Airport |
State Reference | MA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Person 2 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Conflict NMAC |
Narrative:
Last night on approach into boston we received an RA during which the captain had to maneuver the airplane to avoid an imminent collision. We were on vectors to 27 and on downwind. We were following an airbus and a 757 in sequence. We were aware of those two aircraft and had visual on both. Weather was VFR; but getting dark. We were cleared to descend to 3;000 ft.we noticed a hit on our TCAS that was not pointed out by ATC nor made any radio transmissions that we heard. We looked for the traffic; but did not see anything. I actually thought it might have been a ghost hit. We were given a vector to a base leg. While in the turn and leveling off at 3;000 we received an RA. There was an aircraft in our path we could not see (we were looking and I now think he was climbing). We complied with the RA and received a 'clear of conflict' oral message. I immediately informed ATC that we had an RA and had to maneuver the aircraft to avoid collision. I inquired about the traffic. The controller stated that we had plenty of clearance from the traffic. I was stunned. I felt like we were put in a very bad spot and the controller did not have a clue. Maybe my bad for thinking a ghost target; but I still had very good sa [situational awareness]. We were constantly clearing outside and we were aware of the TA hit on TCAS. We did not know that aircraft's trends. We eventually were within 500 ft of the traffic. I am not saying I am perfect; however; my sa was pretty high. My concern is that we were put in a position that we should not have been put in. We were being vectored to final at one of the nation's busiest airports at night. ATC never pointed out the conflicting traffic. We had sa on hit on TCAS. Controller never said anything. After RA; controller said 'traffic was not a factor'. I was so upset. I asked for his phone number. Captain called him last night. I could not. I was completely dumbfounded by what I heard and thought I was much too upset and angry to talk to a controller with very low sa. This was not a good moment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: While being vectored for an approach at BOS the flight crew of a B737-800 responded to a TCAS RA with an aircraft with which they never had visual conrtact. ATC advised there was no apparent traffic conflict. The First Officer was upset with the response which he believed failed to address what he believed to have been a near collision.
Narrative: Last night on approach into Boston we received an RA during which the Captain had to maneuver the airplane to avoid an imminent collision. We were on vectors to 27 and on downwind. We were following an airbus and a 757 in sequence. We were aware of those two aircraft and had visual on both. Weather was VFR; but getting dark. We were cleared to descend to 3;000 FT.We noticed a hit on our TCAS that was not pointed out by ATC nor made any radio transmissions that we heard. We looked for the traffic; but did not see anything. I actually thought it might have been a ghost hit. We were given a vector to a base leg. While in the turn and leveling off at 3;000 we received an RA. There was an aircraft in our path we could not see (we were looking and I now think he was climbing). We complied with the RA and received a 'clear of conflict' oral message. I immediately informed ATC that we had an RA and had to maneuver the aircraft to avoid collision. I inquired about the traffic. The Controller stated that we had plenty of clearance from the traffic. I was stunned. I felt like we were put in a very bad spot and the Controller did not have a clue. Maybe my bad for thinking a ghost target; but I still had very good SA [Situational Awareness]. We were constantly clearing outside and we were aware of the TA hit on TCAS. We did not know that aircraft's trends. We eventually were within 500 FT of the traffic. I am not saying I am perfect; however; my SA was pretty high. My concern is that we were put in a position that we should not have been put in. We were being vectored to final at one of the nation's busiest airports at night. ATC never pointed out the conflicting traffic. We had SA on hit on TCAS. Controller never said anything. After RA; Controller said 'traffic was not a factor'. I was so upset. I asked for his phone number. Captain called him last night. I could not. I was completely dumbfounded by what I heard and thought I was much too upset and angry to talk to a Controller with very low SA. This was not a good moment.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.