<< >> NASA ASRS Report 111990, May 1989

Instructor and student on training flight did touch and go at uncontrolled airport. Unicom operator informed that touch and go not allowed at that airport, and had so informed aircraft on final approach. Information is in airport facility directory.

Attributes
ACN	111990
Time
Date	198905
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ded
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl bound lower : 100 agl bound upper : 100
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : ewr
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff landing other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 275 flight time type : 270
ASRS Report	111990
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Poor preflight action by myself and the student failed to recognize that ded forbids touch and go operations indefinitely per southeast AFD. We proceeded to ded and performed a touch and go at the uncontrolled field. Someone at unicom at the field informed us on upwind that touch and go's were forbidden and said that he told us on short final. We did not hear that call. Corrective actions: no more touch and go's will be performed at ded by this pilot. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter states he has received no follow up from FAA. Indicated upon questioning that flight school does not provide airport facility directory. When asked how he teaches preparation for x-country planning, he did indicate students sometimes buy airport facility directory and always request NOTAMS from FSS. Feels he certainly learned from this mistake.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT ON TRAINING FLT DID TOUCH AND GO AT UNCONTROLLED ARPT. UNICOM OPERATOR INFORMED THAT TOUCH AND GO NOT ALLOWED AT THAT ARPT, AND HAD SO INFORMED ACFT ON FINAL APCH. INFORMATION IS IN ARPT FAC DIRECTORY.

Narrative: POOR PREFLT ACTION BY MYSELF AND THE STUDENT FAILED TO RECOGNIZE THAT DED FORBIDS TOUCH AND GO OPS INDEFINITELY PER SE AFD. WE PROCEEDED TO DED AND PERFORMED A TOUCH AND GO AT THE UNCONTROLLED FIELD. SOMEONE AT UNICOM AT THE FIELD INFORMED US ON UPWIND THAT TOUCH AND GO'S WERE FORBIDDEN AND SAID THAT HE TOLD US ON SHORT FINAL. WE DID NOT HEAR THAT CALL. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS: NO MORE TOUCH AND GO'S WILL BE PERFORMED AT DED BY THIS PLT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATES HE HAS RECEIVED NO FOLLOW UP FROM FAA. INDICATED UPON QUESTIONING THAT FLT SCHOOL DOES NOT PROVIDE ARPT FAC DIRECTORY. WHEN ASKED HOW HE TEACHES PREPARATION FOR X-COUNTRY PLANNING, HE DID INDICATE STUDENTS SOMETIMES BUY ARPT FAC DIRECTORY AND ALWAYS REQUEST NOTAMS FROM FSS. FEELS HE CERTAINLY LEARNED FROM THIS MISTAKE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.