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Attributes | |
ACN | 113859 |
Time | |
Date | 198906 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mex |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mex |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 15500 flight time type : 275 |
ASRS Report | 113859 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Handed off from mexico center to mex city approach, air carrier heavy and I checked in with approach on handoff and after several minutes notices no communication on frequency. Attempted to contact approach west/O results. Switched to tower who gave previous frequency. Returned to previous assigned by reselecting frequency. Successfully contacted approach control who was very irate at our lost communication situation. He gave us confusing and conflicting instructions, including heading 270 and descent to 9000 while turning us toward 11,900 terrain. Controller seemed very disturbed and continued to raise hell with us as we tried to comply with instructions and avoid being vectored into the ground. Dialect-language differences contributed to confusion generated in recontact and getting back into approach flow.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR WDB LOST COM IN HANDOFF TO TRACON.
Narrative: HANDED OFF FROM MEXICO CENTER TO MEX CITY APCH, ACR HEAVY AND I CHECKED IN WITH APCH ON HANDOFF AND AFTER SEVERAL MINUTES NOTICES NO COM ON FREQ. ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT APCH W/O RESULTS. SWITCHED TO TWR WHO GAVE PREVIOUS FREQ. RETURNED TO PREVIOUS ASSIGNED BY RESELECTING FREQ. SUCCESSFULLY CONTACTED APCH CTL WHO WAS VERY IRATE AT OUR LOST COM SITUATION. HE GAVE US CONFUSING AND CONFLICTING INSTRUCTIONS, INCLUDING HDG 270 AND DSCNT TO 9000 WHILE TURNING US TOWARD 11,900 TERRAIN. CTLR SEEMED VERY DISTURBED AND CONTINUED TO RAISE HELL WITH US AS WE TRIED TO COMPLY WITH INSTRUCTIONS AND AVOID BEING VECTORED INTO THE GND. DIALECT-LANGUAGE DIFFERENCES CONTRIBUTED TO CONFUSION GENERATED IN RECONTACT AND GETTING BACK INTO APCH FLOW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.