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Reporter flight overshot alignment with the final approach course and had conflict with widebody transport on approach to parallel runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 114608 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198906 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : stl |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : stl |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 114608 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
The first officer was flying the 12L lda approach at lambert field. We saw both runways and the widebody transport from approximately 10 mi out. The widebody transport flew the parallel 12R ILS approach and the first officer and I both had the widebody transport in sight during the entire approach. At minimums 3 DME/lda 12L freas the first officer turned to the right to land on 12L. When we passed through the centerline of 12L, I told the first officer that he was getting too close to the widebody transport and he corrected to land on 12L. The widebody transport was in sight the entire time. The parallel runways are too close to safely shoot parallel apches. Aircraft overshoot regularly. I have had aircraft overfly and go totally in front of me, while thinking they had us in sight. They were more than likely looking at the wrong aircraft. It would not surprise me to see 2 transport aircraft run together at any time. It will happen.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REPORTER FLT OVERSHOT ALIGNMENT WITH THE FINAL APCH COURSE AND HAD CONFLICT WITH WDB ON APCH TO PARALLEL RWY.
Narrative: THE F/O WAS FLYING THE 12L LDA APCH AT LAMBERT FIELD. WE SAW BOTH RWYS AND THE WDB FROM APPROX 10 MI OUT. THE WDB FLEW THE PARALLEL 12R ILS APCH AND THE F/O AND I BOTH HAD THE WDB IN SIGHT DURING THE ENTIRE APCH. AT MINIMUMS 3 DME/LDA 12L FREAS THE F/O TURNED TO THE RIGHT TO LAND ON 12L. WHEN WE PASSED THROUGH THE CENTERLINE OF 12L, I TOLD THE F/O THAT HE WAS GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE WDB AND HE CORRECTED TO LAND ON 12L. THE WDB WAS IN SIGHT THE ENTIRE TIME. THE PARALLEL RWYS ARE TOO CLOSE TO SAFELY SHOOT PARALLEL APCHES. ACFT OVERSHOOT REGULARLY. I HAVE HAD ACFT OVERFLY AND GO TOTALLY IN FRONT OF ME, WHILE THINKING THEY HAD US IN SIGHT. THEY WERE MORE THAN LIKELY LOOKING AT THE WRONG ACFT. IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME TO SEE 2 TRANSPORT ACFT RUN TOGETHER AT ANY TIME. IT WILL HAPPEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.