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Attributes | |
ACN | 1151072 |
Time | |
Date | 201402 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZKC.ARTCC |
State Reference | KS |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Golden Eagle 421 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Stratolifter (C-135 / 717) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
A C421 was approaching towards top from the southwest for a visual approach to runway 36 at top; and a KC135 was approaching foe from the northwest for a GPS13 approach into foe. I descended the KC135 to get him down below the C421 and get him into foe so that the C421 could overfly the KC135 and approach top for a visual approach to runway 36 at top. I cleared the KC135 to maintain 3;600 until established on the GPS and cleared him for approach at foe. The C421 would fly over the KC135 at 5;000. Because I saw KC135 leave 4;000; I thought I could then descend the C421 to 4;000 for his visual approach into top. The C421 and the KC135 were already diverging at this point; but I forgot that KC135 was going to stop at 3;600 until established and then continue descent. The KC135 still had about a mile or so to go before commencing the approach and heading down. It wasn't until the conflict alert went off that I realized that the KC135 was going to stop at 3;600 for a short time and therefore I should have waited to give the C421 4;000 for his approach into top. Anyone watching this event up front probably wouldn't have realized that a technical separation error had occurred because had they been alerted to it and looked they would've seen the KC135 leaving 4;000; thinking then that I could descend the C421 down to 4;000; out of 5;000. It was a mistake on my part not remembering that the KC135 wasn't going to continue descending right away. I guess the only thing I recommend would be a reminder to controllers that just because we issue a minimum descent altitude for an IFR approach does not mean that; that aircraft is going to continue descending until on the approach itself. Like I said; I thought I was totally following the rules at the time and did not realize I had made an error in judgment until several flashes of the conflict alert and thought about it for a bit.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZKC Controller working approach for FOE and TOP reports a loss of separation between a KC135 and a C421 on a visual to Runway 36 at TOP. The KC135 was cleared to 3;600 until established on the GPS 13 at FOE and the C421 was cleared to 4;000; forgetting that the KC135 would stop at 3;600 FT.
Narrative: A C421 was approaching towards TOP from the southwest for a visual approach to Runway 36 at TOP; and a KC135 was approaching FOE from the northwest for a GPS13 approach into FOE. I descended the KC135 to get him down below the C421 and get him into FOE so that the C421 could overfly the KC135 and approach TOP for a visual approach to Runway 36 at TOP. I cleared the KC135 to maintain 3;600 until established on the GPS and cleared him for approach at FOE. The C421 would fly over the KC135 at 5;000. Because I saw KC135 leave 4;000; I thought I could then descend the C421 to 4;000 for his visual approach into TOP. The C421 and the KC135 were already diverging at this point; but I forgot that KC135 was going to stop at 3;600 until established and then continue descent. The KC135 still had about a mile or so to go before commencing the approach and heading down. It wasn't until the conflict alert went off that I realized that the KC135 was going to stop at 3;600 for a short time and therefore I should have waited to give the C421 4;000 for his approach into TOP. Anyone watching this event up front probably wouldn't have realized that a technical separation error had occurred because had they been alerted to it and looked they would've seen the KC135 leaving 4;000; thinking then that I could descend the C421 down to 4;000; out of 5;000. It was a mistake on my part not remembering that the KC135 wasn't going to continue descending right away. I guess the only thing I recommend would be a reminder to controllers that just because we issue a minimum descent altitude for an IFR approach does not mean that; that aircraft is going to continue descending until on the approach itself. Like I said; I thought I was totally following the rules at the time and did not realize I had made an error in judgment until several flashes of the conflict alert and thought about it for a bit.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.